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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I didn't think that you were literally seeing Jesus. From your comments in the first paragraph, I'm still not sure you are understanding what I meant when I said that when Christ heals a person's spiritual blindness, Christ will appear to that person. What I am saying is...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Behold, Yes, Christ's words are spirit and they carry meanings that are different than what man's wisdom teaches (1Cor2:13). However, a person can READ the spiritual teachings of Christ but it does take "eyes that can see". In other words, Christ must heal a person's spiritual blindness...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: Reminds me of most that encountered Jesus. Like the woman who the disciples were angry saying the ointment could have been sold to feed the poor. and Jesus Christ told them to leave her alone for this she did—-anointing him for his burial—would be spoken of as a...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I just mentioned this verse to you in my previous post. Amazing! Thank your husband for me. Joe
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, Take a look again at what Paul said below: Philemon 1:10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds: Paul is again stating that he has birthed a child of God. I didn't notice this verse earlier. It is more conformation that Paul, as the bride of...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear ScottDowney, Your understanding of the spiritual teachings of Christ is carnal. The carnal teachings of the Old Covenant are outward and they happen in the world where human eyes can see them. The spiritual teachings of the New Covenant are inward and they happen within a person where...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I found a second witness to what Paul said about his birthing children of God. 3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. It seems that John also understood that he is Christ's wife who is birthing children. I'll keep studying; there...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I am seriously considering what you stated about the marriage analogy and that it includes the bride giving birth to children of God. Though it is not taught in the major teachings on the marriage analogy (like the parable of the Ten Virgins and Rev chapter 19), what Paul...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: one question that will help. If “to bear fruit” written in Numbers 5 and Romans 7 is not bringing forth children unto God …then what does bringing forth fruit mean to you in the marriage analogies of Numbers 5 and Romans 7? I believe I answered that question the...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: This I don’t agree with. You say there are no children born, how it is only a marriage analogy. An marriage analogy with fruit. Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, you also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that you should be married to another, even...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: I think it’s more than that. It gives the birth analogy. No longer a servant, but above a servant, a dearly beloved brother. Something took place for Paul to be able to say the servant was not profitable, but is now profitable in body and Spirit. That only happens...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, Before I respond to your post, I need to make a correction on the bondwoman/freewoman. The bondwoman represents the Old Covenant of Law which is based upon man's works to follow it. The freewoman represents the New Covenant of Grace through Faith and is by promise (no...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Ritajanice, Thanks for posting this scripture from 2Peter. Peter teaches in the same way as Christ, Paul and the other writers do. He uses the spiritual language of Christ. This is why Paul says that he teaches in a "mystery". 1Cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery (a...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Scott Downey, There are no scriptures which teach that this physical world will be destroyed by literal fire. Christ words are "spirit" and they carry meanings that are different than what this world teaches (1Cor 2:13). The words "earth" and "heaven" are spirit words (John 6:63)...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Scott Downey, Since only people who are chosen for salvation will receive salvation in this age, why do you think Christ is going to forget about the people who were not chosen? After all, the Father sent Christ save the world and not just some of the world. When Christ judges the lost in...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Scott Downey, I read a few of your posts and agree with much of what you stated. You said: The appointment by God to their eternal life came before their belief in Christ, that is what predestination means, chosen by the Father to be given to Christ as His children, in the future. I...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, To help prevent further confusion, I thought it best to make another post on a third analogy used in scripture. It is the "maturing" analogy. This analogy can easily be confused with the birthing analogy because it uses the terms "babe", child, and perfect man". Here is...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: Random thoughts. Bride or wife? Doesn’t there have to be a consumption for there to be children? His seed remains? Being a bride or wife is the same thing. However, the marriage analogy is separate from the birthing analogy. You should not try to combine them -...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, Thanks for your good response. You said: I’ll try again. In the above I see the married woman cares for the things of the world, how she must please her husband. ^she is those Paul spoke to in Romans 7 that by the body of Christ you are free to marry another, even Him who...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I am a little confused by your comments, especially this one: But I thought it’s the Chaste Virgin —the unmarried woman(pronounced clean) whose husband is dead (by the body of Christ), presented to Christ, being free to be joined to another, even Him who raised from the...