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You've been badly misled about that... Rise in CO2 is followed very quickly by a rise in temperature. As you learned, Pluto has a very eccentric orbit. Currently, it's a lot closer to the sun than normal. So its warmer.

James Hanson of NASA, for one. His predictions, made decades before it happened, were precisely right. BTW, physics would predict more heat going into the oceans. Water has an extremely high specific heat, meaning that it takes more thermal energy to warm up a given mass of water than of...

Almost right. Hypotheses are predictions. When Hypotheses are repeatedly verified by subsequent evidence, they are then theories. If subsequent evidence is contrary to a theory, the theory is modified or discarded. Satellites confirm 1990s sea-level predictions were shockingly accurate...

Data have no moral aspects. It's just reality. And reality doesn't care what we think of it.

Apparently not: The most recent solar cycle was relatively quiet, leading to a lot of fearmongering over an impending Grand Solar Minimum, a longer period of time spanning several cycles where even the maximums are subdued. Reports suggested global temperatures would plummet, producing a mini...

Probably not. Shouldn't that be a clue for you? Instead of listening to oil companies, middle school kids, and politicians, read the actual science. And you'll be harder to fool.

What did I politically advocate? Cite the post in which I did. I'm guessing you just imagined things. But let's see what you can find. I'm guessing we won't see a response. But let's see... So you couldn't find anything? I'm guessing you weren't being dishonest, but just assumed...

What did I politically advocate? Cite the post in which I did. I'm guessing you just imagined things. But let's see what you can find. I'm guessing we won't see a response. But let's see...

Barbarian suggests: Perhaps this discussion would go better if we all put aside resentment and just talked about the evidence. (here's the response) Well, it was worth a try...

You're still listening to politicians and billionaires to learn about climate. Repeat: look at the data in scientific research. You'll be a lot harder to fool.

You didn't know about all those Christian barbarians. Which perhaps they don't teach in school much. But it's true. Ironic then, that embracing Christianity is how I have the internet handle I do. Perhaps this discussion would go better if we all put aside resentment and just talked about...

Well, that seems like a testable belief. Show me scientific literature that cites this kid's research. Yes. If it's true, you should be able to show us that it's true. Can we expect to see that soon? There's a great deal left to be learned about it. Climate scientists were surprised by...

Funny you should say that. Many years ago, I was on a message board, and a rather aggressive atheist told me that I just didn't understand how "barbaric" Christianity is. I replied, "Guess you should call me the barbarian, then. He didn't think it was funny, but a lot of other people on...

Well, that seems like a testable belief. Show me scientific literature that cites this kid's research. I'm guessing that you just trusted people who took advantage of your trust. You guys brought her up here. Up to you to support her claims. Maybe you were just gaslighting. But I...

That was your claim. Climate scientists made no such claims. Denier alarmists seem to have invented that idea and want climate scientists to take ownership. Not a good tactic, if they want to be taken seriously.

So instead of looking at what climatologists say, you were consulting a Swedish teenager? :rolleyes: Starting to see why you're so worked up.

Yeah, I see that. And it's possible that Groucho just happened to find one of those very few climatologists who didn't predict today's warming. Thanks for pointing that out.

Polls are political, you said. You're touting a poll. And you should know that 31,000 scientists is a tiny fraction of the world's scientists. If you could show me 31,000 climatologists/meteorologists who signed on to that poll, you'd have something. Can we get a link to your list...

The American public isn’t as divided on climate change as you might think. The definitive polling on climate, from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication, shows that the number of Americans who think global warming is happening outnumber those who don’t by nearly five to one (72%...

No, you just keep repeating your mantra against reality you've been indoctrinated with. The data are what they are; you can accept it, or you can deny it. But the reality goes on regardless of your feelings. See, as long as you see your position as a religious crusade, you'll keep hitting...