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  1. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
  2. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    How much clearer can this verse be ? The beast in Revelation 13 that will be worshiped will be a literal man. Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
  3. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    He is a literal man, called the beast because of his intense evil. The woman (whore) was not called Babylon. The inscription in Revelation 17:5 written on her head was a reference to the source that influenced her. Babylon the great itself is a reference to the mystical kingdom of Satan and...
  4. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    We were talking about the "him" in Revelation 13:4-8. I just went over to the biblehub.com site and looked through the translations over there. And took a look at Revelation 13:6. Some of the translations had "it" instead of "he". So there is a difference. I am sticking with the kjv.
  5. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Show one of your end times time line charts that reflects your re-interpretation of the bible.
  6. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Original ? Did Moses speak and write in Greek ?
  7. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    When referring to a very evil person, then yes - being a "beast" is descriptive of the person.
  8. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    All of the seven heads are not the beast-king. Just one of the seven heads will become the beast-king.
  9. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Satan will not play either of those roles. Satan will empower and influence both of those persons though.
  10. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Means that the beast and the false prophet will already be in the lake of fire when Satan is cast into the lake of fire after the thousand years. Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall...
  11. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Revelation 13:1-2 is the beast kingdom. Revelation 13:3 then turns the focus to beast-king as one of the heads mortally wounded, but healed.
  12. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Davy, In Revelation 20:1-3, Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit upon Jesus's return. Differently, the beast-king and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire, in Revelation 19:20, at Jesus's return. The beast-king and false prophet are exceptions. They will be cast into...
  13. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    "he" is a pronoun. Not a noun. "he" refers to a male.
  14. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    I am not going to get into the Greek grammar issues. btw, separate question - is 1938 of ewq, the year of your birth ?
  15. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    You don't think that the translators of the kjv bible understood Greek ?
  16. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    A woman is a "her". So what's the problem ? A mountain is an "it".
  17. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Mountains are not "him"s. Neither are kingdoms "him" s. Mountains and Kingdoms are "it"s. In Revelation 13:3-8, the text is referring to "him" - a person.
  18. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    It is the head on the beast out of the sea that becomes the beast king. The kingdom of the beast-king is in Revelation 13:1-2. In Revelation 13:3, one of the seven heads on the beast will be mortally wounded but healed. That mortally/wounded but healed head is the beast-king, a person...
  19. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    Revelation 16:13, it shows three persons. Satan, the beast-king, the false prophet. Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. out of the mouth of the dragon...
  20. Douggg

    crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

    No, there will be two persons cast into the lake of fire in Revelation 19:20, the day that Jesus returns. The false prophet is not the Antichrist person. Being the Antichrist is one stage (stage 3) the little horn person goes through on his way to the lake of fire. Also, in Revelation...