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The firstfruits are not just about the first century just because they use the word "first". You would say that is ridiculous. There is literally no resurrection event associated with the 144k. Why are you inventing a thought and forcing it into either Revelation 7 or 14.

So the 12 disciples all came years prior to the birth of Jesus, and were not actually alive during that earthly ministry? That is your logic of who these 144k are. If the 12 had been prophecied, you would have declared they all had to be busy at work prior to the birth of Jesus. These 144k...

Firstfruits of the Second Coming earthly kingdom. The 12 disciples in the first century were not the last-fruits of the OT Covenant. They were the firstfruits of the Messianic NT Covenant. You all deny the millennial reign of Christ on earth, so will never understand the future firstfruits...

Go out alone by themselves? You have not read the rest of the story, in chapter 14:4 "These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth." Jesus was on the earth when He sent out the original 12 disciples. These 144,000; 12,000 from each tribe, cannot even be chosen, and sent out...

Revelation 11:4 "These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth." Seems the same four individuals, but from a different perspective.

How does Satan actively proselytize humans while out of sight in a pit locked up? Sowing seeds is the definition of proselytizing. That is why many public places declare: "No proselytizing". You cannot say that these verses describe believers and unbelievers who are doing the...

Do you view this as concrete, without budging on the numbers? Or is this a worse case scenario? What if only a couple thousand actually listen to Satan, instead of a larger number? In the Garden, 50% were deceived if you only count Adam and Eve. I count Cain and Abel, so only 25% were...

They are not angels. So according to you there are no demons period in creation, or a third being other than sons of God (humanity) and the angels (stars). All of Satan's angels have been locked up and they don't have spirits that roam about. You really don't understand what locked up means...

That is not exactly how it works. The soul is in sheol in torment. All spirits are in the presence of God, until a soul is reprobate, and then that spirit becomes a demon and has to flee God's presence. You have no connection to your spirit that is currently with all the other spirits in...

Most translations are then wrong in your assessment? You and I are commentaries commenting. Most translations give a full break, as if there is no continuation of thought from verse 14 to verse 16. Even in Ezekiel 29 and 38, we see 2 seperate times God puts "hooks" in the jaws of nations...

Where are billions of satanist found in Revelation 20? Was Eve a satanist deceived by Satan? People are deceived every day, but not all of them are satanist. How do you know there are billions? Is that your symbolic assessment of your millennium, that it only has satanist on earth with a...

There is no detail in Revelation 20, that defines the last 2 alleged 1,000 years, you call a millennium.

Non sequitur. Comparing physical beings and physical acts, voids your own argument that John is talking about the spiritual world. There is literally nothing a spirit in a spiritual prison in spiritual chains can be compared to via a physical "counterpart".

Spirit beings or angels don't need a physical bottom. They just are denied freedom, and locked up. So will Satan one day, but currently is not. Demons can come and go, and do. They are not locked up. Demons are the spirits of reprobate humans both dead from the time of the Flood until...

No, because there is no verse that claims God deceives humans, period. This verse (16) states God, because God is the he, not Satan: Revelation 16:14-16 "For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them...

Zechariah 14:2 is not Revelation 16:13-14. But God gathers both groups. The point evil spirits are used is not relevant, other than God uses Satan to gather all on the earth to Armageddon, because no human will be physically alive at that point. Zechariah 14 is before the Second Coming...

What do you mean by "the rest of the world"? The only humans left on the earth after the Second Coming are the redeemed. Their offspring are neither sinners nor saved. One act of disobedience as a child and the death penalty is instant. Adam received the death penalty immediately upon...

That is not Scriptural, that the coming Day of the Lord is the same old sin cursed earth. Both you and most Premil teach erroneously that sin continues, which blatantly contradicts Scripture, that all things will be restored prior to the start of the Day of the Lord.

You quoted from chapter 11. Why are you moving to another chapter?

No, but 2 Peter 3 does and that is the same event as the 6th Seal.