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Irenaeus erred according to WHO? Just for clarification: You say that "only the Church even could qualify as the New Eve". Who or what is "the Church" according to you?

Post #158.....

Pot calling the kettle black???? I just looked back at all your posts on this thread and you went of topic MANY times and discussed many different things.......And you call me dishonest????? But I digress.....Let's talk about the 2,000 year teaching that I adhere to and the 500 year teaching...

I have been responding to your false and illogical statements, and you don't like it and clearly can't back up what you say. That's fine. I promise I will only talk about Mary as the new Eve from here on out.........:ntmetu

I just responded to your original post. Good luck.........

Hi GP, Who taught you that "the Bible teaches that only the Church could be the New Eve"? What I have been taught is that because of Eve’s disobedience to God and Adam’s cooperation with her both of them lost sanctifying grace for themselves and their offspring. Eve and Mary were created full...

Got it.........soooo when you write something illogical and/or not true in your post's you want me to ignore it and not respond to it. I am only allowed to respond to sentences in your post that are on the topic of "Mary as new eve". How am I being deceptive when I ask you to back up what you...

Easy: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-can-you-say-that-mary-is-the-new-eve

LOL.....I didn't change the topic. I am literally responding to your point: The thing with an "infallible" Church is one error brings the entire edifice down. THAT is the topic YOU started with that statement. Soooo lets try this again. Back up your logic on the topic YOU started by answering...

I see you refuse to answer my questions....That's fine. I know why you won't. I will continue to respond to yours. According to the evidence that YOU have accepted YOU are right. The Church is not "powerless" to respond to your "evidence". Your "evidence" has responded to it.....You just don't...

Scripture says that the Church is the pillar and ground of the truth. That means that The Church is infallible. Jesus said that "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (The Church). Scripture says that we are to listen to The Church and if we disobey it we are to be treated as a tax...

Irenaeus erred and taught falsely according to who? YOU and your ilk? I refer you back to post #141 that debunks your logic: What if the CC and 3 other denominations (Lutheran, Orthodox and Jim's bible church any town USA) say YOU and your ilk are erroneous about Mary..... wouldn't that make YOU...

Been proven erroneous by WHO? How does this work exactly? According to you the CC is erroneous because some say some of it's teachings are erroneous and some of it's teachings are not erroneous. What if the CC and 3 other denominations (Lutheran, Orthodox and Jim's bible church any town USA)...

You would have submitted to the overseers of The Church 2,000 years ago because the overseers (Church leaders) didn't allow impurities to creep in. So help me out here.....According to your research, when did this creeping in of impurities start and The Church leaders started getting it wrong...

Hello GP, You wouldn't be a fool. You would be obeying Scripture: Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. Therefore take heed to...

HI GracePeace, It makes even less sense that YOU can detect errors in Christian traditions that others hold. Where in Scripture does it say that YOU, or any individual Christian, were given that infallible authority? Why on earth would I take anything you would say wholesale, unthinkingly...

Thanks. It sounds to me that YOU are the decider of true biblical dogma. Interesting. Mary

Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. So you hold to the traditions that YOU agree with? Mary

Hey GracePeace, If the CC didn't hold the doctrine of Mary as the New Eve, would you become Catholic? Or are there other doctrines/dogmas of the CC that you think are in error? Mary

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