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    Satan As the Final Coming Antichrist

    Except this: Rev 19 20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. —The...
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    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    Will the Jews build a third temple? I find the question presented to be faulty. The third temple is built and continues to be built up by living stones in the church which God dwells in. Will the Jews build a fourth temple? No. Because the third temple is all that is needed. The man of sin...
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    My opinion is that Christ doesn’t wait over 2k years to be sung a song and receive the scroll. Otherwise, we are still looking for someone to be found worthy to receive it Rev 4:5. Christ was worthy after the cross and there’s no reason he’d wait to receive it as it’s evident that his ascension...
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    It’s important to note, some of the best manuscripts omit “us” in verse 10 and the majority textual critiques favor “they will reign on earth”. Not “we”. Some issues: the cherubs (4 living beast) sing with the elders and cherubs cannot be redeemed. The elders are in heaven before the lamb is...
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    City of Seven Hills

    Ok, so your mountain is a literal mountain or continent. 2 completely different things but ok. Let's go with it. No, horns are Kings. Not the kingdom themselves. Daniel 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the...
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    City of Seven Hills

    Are they literal mountains as you said previously or are they continents? Which is it? Seems like you are confused about your own answer. Mountains are figurative of Kingdoms. As one puts it, Babylon is called a destroying mountain, Jer 51:25, in majestic contrast to which stands Mount Zion...
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    City of Seven Hills

    The mountains are heads and are not part of the women. The mountains are part of the beast. The beast with its mountains carry her. Physical mountains have no part in a symbolic picture. What would 7 literal mountains have to do with a murderous beast? Geographically, nothing. You seem to still...
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    City of Seven Hills

    Are you denying scripture showing mountains as kingdoms? Correct in your view. Not correct in others. The heads have no more authority. Their kings fall, the kingdoms no longer have sway. Is Babylon alive today? Is Media Persia? Is Greece a major power? No. They arnt. Why are you on the...
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    City of Seven Hills

    I don’t see literal and symbolic in that passage. Only symbolic. The same with the mountains. The Bible shows a head was the kingdom(mountain) and its king. Revelation specified that the 7 heads are 7 mountains(kingdoms) and there are 7 kings. My opinion in parentheses is based off of scripture...
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    City of Seven Hills

    Then you are telling me there "are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth". And if the mountains are literal as you say they are, then the women sitting on all 7 mountains at one time is also literal. It is part of the same context. Either both are literal or both are symbolic. I know...
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    City of Seven Hills

    I'm not sure what you mean by the above as "its enforcement in play". Yes, the beast of the sea has 10 horns and the crowns are on the 10 horns instead of the 7 heads whose authority was removed.
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    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    I'm joyful you recognize that. I'll cease from posting more to you from that context. Of course, God still has a purpose for them being his original people though they rejected his Son. As Barnes notes, It is clear here that the word "election" does not refer to external privileges; for Paul...
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    City of Seven Hills

    It would be nice to have discourse without starting a reply in the negative. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. If you take the mountains literally, then you are required to interpret the entire passage literally: a...
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    City of Seven Hills

    Yes, that is true. And in this case, John was given a vision in the spirit and as you stated before your edit, context matters. I agree. if you take the mountain as literal, then the harlot is literal and the beast she rides is literal. Are we looking for a literal female who is a literal whore...
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    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for...
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    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly;
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Why did that surprise you? We don’t know who that pharaoh was, but there’s likelihood that he was not Egyptian. The Hyksos ruled around the time of Joseph. Some refer to them as shepherd kings or foreign kings.
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    City of Seven Hills

    At least someone gets it. Mountains are figurative of kingdoms. If you make the hill/mountains literal, then the women is literal riding a literal beast. That’s a biblical oopsie!
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    The Thessalonians said the same thing. So did those in WW2. Many Pre-TBs thought since Israel came back in 1948, the Lord would come 70 years later in 2018. That didn’t happen. Now some of them say 80 years from that date in 2028. The Lord gives prerequisites and says watch. No other timetable...