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The verse says they presented themselves before the LORD! Nothing about flesh and blood or spirits entering into the court of God. Can you explain how humans and the spirit called Satan together present themselves before the LORD?

Cain proved he was of the spirit of the murderer and liar from the beginning. Yes, it is the spirit he was born with because he was no longer of the Spirit of Christ that created mankind. All of mankind from the fall are born with a spirit of sin from the human womb. No longer the likeness...

Here is an example of how you often troll the forums. TS never said Cain is the devil that is you saying it! He said "Cain, a MAN, with the spirit of disobedience"! That is NOT asserting that Cain is THE DEVIL, that is you changing (trolling) what he actually said. The spirit in ALL of...

The Bible NEVER speaks of angels of God as fallen! That is read into the Bible but cannot be proven FROM the Bible.

Angel is defined - a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication, a pastor:—angel, messenger. Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the angels (spirit messengers) he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Because the Bible has repeatedly translated spirit as "angel"...

Cain was not the devil per se, but of the spirit of the devil which was from the beginning of creation. I believe that darkness that existed at the beginning is metaphor for evil that existed by God's design. Cain is the foremost example of how the spirit God created in man became like the...

How did Satan/spirit enter the holy court of God with the sons of God/humans? Why are you assuming "present themselves before the LORD" means entering the Holy Court standing with God? Job 1:6 (KJV) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and...

How is spirit defined? Breath, breathe, current of air, wind, mind/thought. Living physical creatures have a spirit, the spirit within is of good and or the spirit of evil without the spirit itself having flesh and bone and can only be manifested when living within physical creatures. The...

Your doctrine comes from believing folklore/fables that many biblical scholars believe originate from the teaching and writings of Enoch.

Genesis is a record of the beginning of ALL things in heaven and earth. Including the serpent whom God says has a beginning in creation of mankind along with everything else that God created in six days. The serpent that God says "was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God...

Satan is a liar and murderer from the beginning of the six days of creation when the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea and ALL that is in them. Exodus 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the...

God's special people are the SPIRITUAL descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, belonging to the supernatural SEED (Christ). The physical city of Jerusalem of Old ceased being God's special city through spiritual apostasy. Since the advent of Christ Jerusalem from above is the Holy/heavenly...

In both Hebrew and Greek angel is interpreted messenger. Rev 1:20 leaves us without guessing because John plainly tells us the seven stars are human messengers (angels) of the seven churches and the seven candlesticks are the churches.

SO! Pay attention to the discussion of others if you wish to contribute thoughtfully to what is being said and be considered. The question posed has to do with the statement initially made by wpm, "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels." He makes this bold statement as if he's proven...

You seem to think that repeating the same unbiblical arguments again and again will somehow make your opinions truth. Throughout these 48 pages, as well as other posts the verses used in the OP have already been shown and ignored that they do not support your unbiblical opinion regarding Satan...

SO! Who has argued humans go back and forth between heaven and earth? Yes, you and wpm would love to deflect back to the OP to discuss ad nauseum what has already been addressed throughout these 48 pages. It's not false accusation! This entire conversation is driven by the belief that...

None of the verses used in the OP support the opinion that stars represent angels, nor do they prove "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels."

Did Jacob see angels flying to and fro? No! Jacob saw angels climbing up and down on a ladder. That's the problem? Trying to force stars to represent angels in the verses used from the OP does NOT prove "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels". Forcing contradiction and confusion...

This is your classic go to reply.....DEFLECTION!

Whose avoiding? Prove "the Bible pattern represents stars as angels"!!! Deflection is always your go to reply!