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    All the ELECT please stand up

    You can’t, neither do I want you to. You must investigate what I’m delivering with the passages I’m giving you. I am trying to prove all things so we can both hold fast to that which is good. You are to test me and see if what I’m saying is so. I asked you in the previous post show me all my...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    Yes it is impossible for people to save themselves but through obedience to God they can be saved. Nowhere does the text say....God does everything man does nothing.
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    Where does it say “earth”? You are adding words again. Just because the Bible uses the word “creation” or “creature” does not mean he is talking about the whole earth. For example ... Col 1:15 calls Christ the firstborn of every “creature”. This is talking about souls. He was the first to be...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    His death on the cross was necessary so that our sins COULD be forgiven. His death on the cross did not forgive us all of our sins. We have a part to play in coming in contact with the blood of Jesus. If we don’t then everybody is saved and we know that is not true. Yes we are saved by...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    I am editing this one because I have now read all of your post. If you don’t feel like responding then no worries there either. Appreciate your time and effort. I will say I’m disappointed with what you said about acts 2. The text says baptism was “for remission of sins”. But you said no...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    So salvation comes BEFORE obedience?? I noticed you didn’t post any scripture to support that. I asked you a question earlier that I knew you wouldn’t answer.... In acts 2, was the believing audience saved before or after their sins were remitted? Another way to ask that is.....were the...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    When I said.....you can’t demonstrate anything physically I was speaking to all those who I had previously had discussions with who were claiming they had gifts of the Spirit. So if you are one of them then you fall into this category. The category that says.....I’m one of the elect because I...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    They are NOT out of context! You say they are but then provide no evidence. We are just to trust you. I will help you out. Let’s look at 1 thes 5:21 In vs 20 it says...despise not prophesying. To prophesy is to utter by divine inspiration so we today could be considered a prophet by preaching...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    You posted gal 2:16 and in your translation it says....we are not justified by the law but by faith IN Christ. People use this to preach that all you have to do is have “faith/belief IN Christ. My point was that the proper translation teaches more than that. It is written in the possessive...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    Eph 2:8 DOES NOT teach that we are to do NOTHING. Show me all those who are described as elect BEFORE they did anything? Those in Ephesus were obedient and literally and physically DID something. THEN, after obedience, Paul could call them elect and Paul THEN could say they were saved by grace...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    I’ve dealt with every passage you have posted. We’ll see if I’m extended the same courtesy. All of those described as “elect” were called that AFTER obedience. Those in Rome, Colosse, Ephesus, those Peter was writing to. All are referred to as elect AFTER obedience. Never before. When...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    What you just said means absolutely nothing. Keep repeating Jn 15. It’s all you got.
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    This is false. I can physically prove that I am one of the elect. I have believed the gospel and been obedient to it through repentance, confession and baptism in water for the remission of my sins. These are the elect. It is provable and verifiable through the word of God. Nowhere is anybody...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    Without faith we are not saved. That is correct. Heb 11:6. Without faith it is impossible to please God. But at what point is a person saved? It is at the point your sins are removed! NOBODY can be saved and still be in their sins. Salvation IS NOT at the point a person mentally accepts...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    The correct translation of this is found in the KJV. We are justified by “the faith” of Christ. It is the system of faith, the one faith of Ephesians 4, it is the gospel of Jesus Christ which is the power of God unto salvation. It is NOT some mental ascent to the fact that Christ was the son...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    This response is actually ridiculous. Nowhere does the Bible say “faith is not physically provable”. Nowhere. To the contrary. The Bible commands that we “prove all things” 2 Corinthians says...Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves...
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    One True Church

    No where did Christ say....where two people who “mention my name” there I’ll be also. He said where two or three are gathered together “in my name”. HUGE difference. Anybody can “mention” the name of Jesus and that don’t matter. Mt 7:21-23 To gather “in the name” of Jesus is to do it by his...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    Show me how you come to that conclusion. Where is it in the text? The entire context of 1 Cor 13 is about revelation and gifts and how having these things without love is nothing. These people were putting a premium on having these gifts and Paul was just letting them know that it’s only...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    Your a Greek scholar...look up the word “perfect” in your lexicon. It will say this...having reached its end, complete, perfect So the word really is referring to something that is complete or has reached its end. It’s not talking about sin or sinlessly perfect. The context is speaking of...
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    All the ELECT please stand up

    I’m not short changing anybody. Paul said... 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that...