Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    Well, I have not said that I deny Hell - I just deny your own personal interpretation of what "Hell" is. "Hades" or "Sheol" both translated as "Hell" just means the grave, which all mankind just or unjust will experience by physically dying and returning to the dust from which we came...
  2. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    I'm not "ignoring Jesus, God or the Bible". I am reading the Scripture accounts of what the fate of the wicked dead is, according to the entire book. And I have already said that I have no idea what the JW's teach regarding Hell. I have been Reformed Baptist, independent Baptist, and...
  3. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    The wicked are NOT given eternal life - not even in an after life existence in your own personal interpretation of what "Hell" is. God is long-suffering, but He does not intend to allow His universe to be forever polluted by the continued perpetual existence of the wicked. Even the worst...
  4. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    Jesus is correct, but your interpretation of His words is NOT. You apparently don't realize the timing for the manifestation of that Scarlet Beast. John wrote in Revelation 17:8 that this Scarlet Beast once "WAS" in existence, then it "IS NOT" (it had gone out of existence in John's days), but...
  5. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    This was not a perpetual "forever and ever" throughout eternity. It was torment for Satan, his devils, and the Scarlet Beast and the Judean False Prophet, up until the "ends of the ages", which Paul wrote had arrived for that first-century generation back then. "...and they are written for...
  6. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    Satan's fate was to be slain by God - not to be tormented perpetually in a supposed perpetual "Hell fire". Read Isaiah 27:1. Also read the fate of the "anointed cherub" who had been in Eden, according to God's prediction for him in Ezekiel 28:11-19. He would bring a fire out of the midst of...
  7. 3 Resurrections

    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    You do realize that the word "also" is in italics in the KJV? That is because "also" was inserted artificially by the translators. The phrase only reads "every eye shall see him (kai) they which pierced him..." The Greek word "kai" is used here in an explanatory sense only, meaning "namely"...
  8. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    Please read a little more carefully and slowly. It is those who believe who possess eternal life of the soul while in this life, with the Spirit's guarantee that their bodies will also be eventually changed into the incorruptible and immortal condition in the bodily resurrection process. THESE...
  9. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    It depends on the context. Look above at what I wrote. " 'Forever' does not ALWAYS translate in Scripture as meaning something perpetual with no ending." Sometimes it DOES mean perpetual, such as describing God: "Underneath are the everlasting arms..." In the context of Christ describing...
  10. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    "Forever" doesn't always translate in Scripture as meaning something perpetual with no ending. As in Isaiah 32:14-15. "Because the palaces shall be forsaken; the multitude of the city shall be left; the forts and towers shall be for dens FOR EVER, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks...
  11. 3 Resurrections

    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    It is NOT heresy to teach that Christ was the First-fruits, raised from the dead on the same day that the Matthew 27:52-53 saints also came out of their graves back in AD 33. This was called "the FIRST resurrection" in Revelation 20:5, when that "blessed and holy" remnant of the dead came to...
  12. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    That isn't the environment of the eternal state. That was a temporal issue taking place in the world at that time when Jude was being written. Those in the church in those days were to evangelize others, using a different manner of convincing them, depending on whether the person was obstinate...
  13. 3 Resurrections

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    Yes, they were literal Israelite offspring of Sarah and Abraham. The "remnant of the woman's seed" I believe were the bodily resurrected 144,000 Jewish First-fruits (the Matthew 27:52-53 saints) taken from among those various Israelite tribes listed in Rev. 7. They remained on the earth in...
  14. 3 Resurrections

    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    No, you fail to understand why Hymenaeus and Philetus were teaching a past resurrection in those days. They were correct in one respect - Christ actually HAD already been raised from the dead in the past, along with the many Matthew 27:52-53 saints coming out of their graves that same day and...
  15. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    Death and Hell were both thrown INTO the "Lake of Fire" which was also called "the second death". If something is thrown INTO something else, then those are not the same things. There is no such thing as "Hell-fire" in the way it is typically understood. Hell (Hades) is the GRAVE. Even...
  16. 3 Resurrections

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    I salute you for being brave enough to propose an ancient past fulfillment of the two witnesses. You are correct on that point. But to presume that we can apply the day-for-a-year principle to this 1260 day period of the two witnesses prophesying is not warranted in the context of this sixth...
  17. 3 Resurrections

    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Spell check. That would be "doozies". I've no idea what any Kingdom Hall has to say on this, never having been in one before. Christ told His disciples to read their prophet Daniel's Scriptures (Matt. 24:15), and they would understand the timing of all those disasters, which would let them...
  18. 3 Resurrections

    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    No, it wasn't a secret to all the tribes of Israel who were inside the besieged city of Jerusalem in AD 70. When they saw Christ's return to the Mount of Olives, they all mourned to see it, just as Zechariah 12 had prophesied they would do. Their deep mourning was because they were not...
  19. 3 Resurrections

    Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

    Remember, the "furnace of fire" is in Zion in Jerusalem, according to Isaiah 31:9. Both Death and Hell were going to be thrown INTO the "Lake of Fire" in Rev. 20:14. Which means that Hell cannot possibly be the Lake of Fire itself. This "Lake of Fire" was the "second death" which the city of...
  20. 3 Resurrections

    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Jesus during His earthly ministry said He didn't know the day or the hour, but the ascended Jesus WAS told this information by God. That's why Revelation was written - for Christ "to show unto His servants things that must shortly come to pass", which included all the events leading up to the...