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  1. dad

    Who is Israel?

    And none of those unbelievers / nations have the right to evict women and children out of a land they claim God wants to give them. So? God also calls Himself the God of Abraham and Isaac. He is referring to believers of that lineage. We are the seed of Abraham as well. But the promises of the...
  2. dad

    Who is Israel?

    You made that up though. Israel today is not following squat. So are the promises to Israel. FOR believers. Who cares what we were born? The issue here is that no title and right to land is given to unbelievers (Jewish or not) period. Also disqualified from any claim to the promised land...
  3. dad

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    Congress did not vote for that. Neither are the reasons for the terrorist war sane or legal etc etc
  4. dad

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    Horse manure. It is not excusable to peddle such hollow obvious propaganda. Your numbers are not proven to say the least. Am I talking to a bot? They had lands. Now they don't. You got some spainin to do Lucy Prove it. Most disagree with that fantasy Misusing Scripture to pretend it...
  5. dad

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    The way to save people is not to bomb the hell out of them and kill children etc. Sorry that is news. Especially in a terrorist illegal war
  6. dad

    Who is Israel?

    I agree. That does not leave the people who claim He restored them in 1948 in a good place though:)
  7. dad

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    The illegal attack on Iran may not be the way to do it, if your concern was the people.
  8. dad

    Who is Israel?

    OK, I guess you are on the right track on that issue.
  9. dad

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    That is your business, that Iran kills some of it's people? That means you are justified in blowing up a young girl's school in Iran? As for the people evicted from stolen lands not having countries wanting them to move there, we might ask why they were evicted to start with? Did they not have...
  10. dad

    Who is Israel?

    I actually said 'what was it' and then mentioned 4/5. So now I will search for the exact number for you. -- OK so here it is The actual number is 2/3. Before this time, however, there was a great persecution and murder and wars etc etc etc as well . So the 2/3 in all the land there killed...
  11. dad

    Who is Israel?

    If you want to claim that you know that Jesus returns to take up believers in the clouds, exactly, and that it is during the wrath of God, you would need to prove it. Also, JHe andesus does not return 'one time' as you suggest. He also returns in the very end of the Tribulation and comes right...
  12. dad

    Who is Israel?

    And after we are not on earth, the Lord deals with Israel and gets them to say uncle.
  13. dad

    Who is Israel?

    He won't be able to do that. It is speculation
  14. dad

    Who is Israel?

    Yes. I would point out that there are special promises to the children of Abraham who believe as well. Not promises to me and you. Wee have other promises. Like the place He prepared for us, New Jerusalem! Also that we will rule (the whole world) with Him. Not just earthly Jerusalem and etc.
  15. dad

    Who is Israel?

    After what was it, 4/5 of them were killed first? Also, who says it is in the middle? I would place it at the very end. Right. Unbelievers, soon to be attacked. Soon to lose most of the population as well before the end Ha. That is actually at at time when Israel is saved. Ezekiel 37:23...
  16. dad

    Who is Israel?

    NOT the Israel God restores to that land! The 'Israel' of unbelievers there now is the Israel of prophesy in the last days. The nation that God brings other nations to attack. Don't be fooled by the name. Israel are the children of promise, of Abraham (and converts etc). Not unbelievers. The...
  17. dad

    Who is Israel?

    OK, yes, the kingdom of heaven, of God. That is not saying that the believing Israel who are saved in the end will not get what they were always promised
  18. dad

    Who is Israel?

    I agree. Although there was prophesied to be an 'Israel' that gets invaded etc in the end times. My issue is that some preachers pretend that the terrorist unbelieving nation that exists there today already was restored to the land by God!
  19. dad

    Who is Israel?

    There are two Israels. Only the one that accepts Jesus is the real Israel that will be restored to the land etc in the end. Right now we have 'name only' unbelievers terrorizing neighbors and bring the world to war. This is NOT the Israel God restores. Only the believers that remain alive in...
  20. dad

    Who is Israel?

    ALL promises were to believers. If they did not believe, then it was curses. The promises do not extend to unbelieving physical relatives etc. The Israel of the end that gets invaded is in name only. Like the Jews that were not really Jews in that verse in Revelation. They were liars using the...