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OK Since you're not interested in the discussion, you can bow out--no one is forcing you to pretend to have thoughts about the matter or have a discussion with those (non-existent) thoughts.

Nope, I knew you'd do that, so I already said I don't want to see a bunch of lazy copy-pasting, but actually engaging with my argument, with its individual parts, dismantling it, piece by piece. Demonstrate its incoherence.

Nope, the topic is about how Mary is not New Eve. You have no way of disproving my assertion, so you want to change the topic to some other argument you think you have better odds of winning--not that you can win that argument, it's just you feel better without the pressure of the actual topic...

I invite you to demonstrate that my argument is not true, but that yours is true--this doesn't involve copying and pasting large swathes of speculations about how Mary is the New Eve, it involves attacking the parts of my argument.

LOL! This is my thread, and I set the topic--ie, "I see you refuse to answer my questions" applies to you. You are incapable of honesty, only deceptive tactics (eg, the aforementioned)--but I guess you're not to blame, since that's what has been sown into you by your church (deceptive tactics...

You desperately want to change the topic because you can't answer the actual topic--Mary as New Eve is an error--and I'm not going to let that happen.

According to the evidence--which evidence you are powerless to respond to.

Your methodology is broken. Let me demonstrate : If I hear you assert that "2 + 2 = 5", and I respond, "No, 2 + 2 = 4; let's examine the evidence, which clearly demonstrates that 2 + 2 = 4, plus, if we keep consistent with the math, we can solve a lot of other problems," but your commitment to a...

You can't actually engage in the discussion, you try to shift the discussion--either Irenaeus erred or he didn't.

You've already been made privy to one--Irenaeus erred when he falsely taught his baseless nonsense about Mary. He's been debunked. The thing with an "infallible" Church is one error brings the entire edifice down. There are many more. Your false understanding of Romans 2--that the "Gentiles" who...

There is only one seed Who is the heir; accordingly, only those who are IN CHRIST, the ONE seed, stand to inherit TOGETHER in the ONE heir, in Whom all are ONE--not heirs OF Christ, but heirs IN Christ, heirs TOGETHER WITH Christ. Galatians 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to...

Yep, I would've been happy to have submitted to an overseer back then--before the impurities crept in--but, today, we have the additional task of actually arriving at a correct understanding.

Your Church system will pass away before Christ returns. It is already being proven erroneous. If you don't want to use your critical thinking skills in this area of life, I guess that's how you live in the rest of your life--uncritically, unthinkingly. That's your call. I can't do it.

Christ is the heir of Abraham, and all those who are in Christ are heirs together with Christ.

If you want to deny that the entirety of believers, Jew and Gentile, are the bride of Christ, and argue, instead, that the bride of Christ applies only to the "Church of Israel"... are you not also subject to your own criticism that to say such things is to make all the men in the "Church of...

So, when God called Israel "My firstborn son", that made all the women men? For what ever reason, you are a rebellious woman--rebellious against Scripture, and rebellious against people who speak the Scripture which you have zero answers for (except the silliness of, "The Apostles were...

So, you want to be a man? LOL! The very same criticism you want to level at my understanding applies to your own--but you don't realize or won't acknowledge it! "Rules for thee, none for me."? Hypocrisy? Is that how to "rightly divide the word of truth"? Literally nothing you say stands any...

LOL! @Marilyn C was getting absolutely hammered in debate, so she shifted the issue to "show me respect" so that she could run away--it appears--she had enough of having to actually call the Apostles "disobedient", etc, lying against Scripture, to uphold her nonsense, so she decided to bow out...

Oh, I thought I was discussing with a "bible college" student or graduate. I thought you would be familiar, and know which Scriptures I was alluding to. Did you really need me to cite every verse instead of alluding to them?

God doesn't just "call" them His wife, He said "your Maker is your Husband" Isaiah 54:5, and, accordingly, describes Israel's idolatry as "adultery" in Hosea. He RELATES to them as Husband. Oh, but they're His son, so how could He do that? LOL! You are completely out of your depth--and we're...