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  1. skypair

    Justifying Works

    Very good, NC! But notice .. Ro 4:22-24 was talking about a work Abraham did after he was justified/saved. Also, it was an ordinary work but done according to faith. We see this also in Heb 11, right? There is says, "By faith [+ work] … and it was counted to him for righteousness." There...
  2. skypair

    What is the gospel?

    You said, "By responding in faith we are repenting,..." What does that look like? Are you saying that belief = repentance? It does .. but not the kind of repentance that saves. It's simply changing your mind. But no. I'm not Mormon -- I'm traditional baptist. Do you know what that means...
  3. skypair

    What is the gospel?

    That is a false narrative, justaname. We are not born until we repent taking ourselves off the throne of our lives (denying our own godliness) and plead for salvation in Christ Jesus. Then we are born again. skypair
  4. skypair

    Justifying Works

    Here's what I believe: God, in salvation, is recreating us into His sons (1Thes 5:23 (blameless .. body, soul, and spirit"). It starts with the soul — the command headquarters of our entire lives. In justification, He makes us exactly like Jesus — so without sin in our souls by virtue of the...
  5. skypair

    What is the gospel?

    I would say that His monergistic role in salvation is that He created you in His SPIRITUAL image .. you are His offspring (Acts 17:26-27) .. you are your own Father, Spirit, and body. Then, by-and-by, He revealed Himself to you — first through the everlasting gospel (Ro 1:18-20) .. then through...
  6. skypair

    Justifying Works

    Let's broaden your vision a little here. :) Those of us who are saved ARE Comforters. The first Comforter (Jn 14:16, 15:26, 16:7) was Peter who delivered the Holy Spirit to those in Jerusalem, in Judea, in Samaria, and to the uttermost parts of the world (the Gentiles). But we, as we share...
  7. skypair

    Justifying Works

    We don't "still have the sin nature," NC .. we have the divine nature — just like Jesus. "Let this mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus…" You empty yourself, right? You are now in the form of God .. being found in the fashion of man, humble yourself and be obedient unto death. (Phil 2:5-8)...
  8. skypair

    Justifying Works

    Strange that you would quote 1Cor 1:30 where is says Christ is our righteousness and yet not believe that God has imparted righteousness to us. He has, NC. By Christ's Spirit living in us, we have our own righteousness which is of God. Because the OT saints could not have the indwelling...
  9. skypair

    Justifying Works

    And so learn the symbology of that. The tabernacle was man. The outer court, his flesh; the holy place, his spirit; and the Holy of holies, his soul. Now in the soul of the saved person are the tablets of the law (Ro 2:14-15), the rod of Aaron — of life from the dead, and the golden bowl of...
  10. skypair

    Justifying Works

    Actually, the "heart of stone" was the heart with God's law hidden in it. And, indeed, according to Ro 2:14-15, we all have God's "law written on our hearts, our consciences bearing us witness…" So when we break one of those laws, we are disobedient to God and become sinners having a sin...
  11. skypair

    Justifying Works

    Actually, that is backwards. Repentance comes before forgiveness of sin in the inner man, Acts 2:38. Then once the inner man is "cleansed" by regeneration, he is "renewed" by the Holy Spirit indwelling, Titus 3:5. "Renewed" = new creation. skypair
  12. skypair

    Pre-possessed

    Well, God establishes that He loves all of us from birth, Acts 17:26-27. We ARE His offspring. So it is not so much "works" that continue to ingratiate us to Him but OBEDIENCE. Obedience in the OT involved works of the flesh (as you note). But obedience in the NT involves obedience of the...
  13. skypair

    Blood-purged Conscience (II)

    True! In living flesh ("terrestrial") we do glorify God and Christ. See, God gives us a body as it pleases Him, 1Cor 15:38. Not at all, NC. In fact it opens up a whole new vision into the Trinity, doesn't it? It's called the "eschatological view" which says that the true Trinity is yet to be...
  14. skypair

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    I've learned the following sequential order. It helps in understanding the chronology of events. Rev 1-3 = church age 4-5 = rapture, scene in heaven 6 = seals 8-9 = trumpets 12 = 144,000 flee Jerusalem, A/C overflows Jerusalem 13 = A/C sets up his tabernacles in Jerusalem, his image in the...
  15. skypair

    Blood-purged Conscience (II)

    I'm not sure the Harris knows what he is talking about, NC. The Holy Spirit is the "thoughts and ways" of God as given to us in the Bible. For the saved believer, it is the Word that he has engrafted in his soul, 1Pet 1:23, by the faith. So the Holy Spirit being the Word of God is also the...
  16. skypair

    Can you lose your salvation?

    Do you know what it is? They have only changed their minds about Christ .. they have not changed their hearts. This is a very serious matter because Calvinists do it too. Both OSAS and non-OSAS think that because they believe in Christ, they are saved. But they only believe with their minds...
  17. skypair

    Can you lose your salvation?

    Please make your point. skypair
  18. skypair

    Parallelisms in Revelation (Part 1 of 2)

    Here's a parallelism that really applies: The seals parallel the dispensations, the covenants of God with His people .. except where God applied a seal to the scroll protecting man from Satan, in the tribulation, God's angels will remove the seals laying mankind on the earth open to the rule of...
  19. skypair

    Heaven is Not Where Those Who Are Saved Go

    If this is your faith, it is OT Jewish faith in the NT Christian era. Your verbiage seems to confirm that as well. Right, in the OT they had little understanding of the soul. They tended to call it the "heart" .. as in "Thy Word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against thee." The...
  20. skypair

    Can you lose your salvation?

    I assume you are addressing me. But I never said "repent minute by minute." What Paul did say in connection with repenting is "I die daily." (1Cor 15:31) Now notice that in Jn 3:16, it doesn't say "whosoever believes Him." It says "whosoever believes IN Him," right? Likewise with the...