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    Athens or Jerusalem or Neither?

    I suppose that you just had to be there and have participated in person. If I am not my own, and I am bought with a price, the Blood of Jesus shed upon the cross, then those death oaths are an afront to His sacrifice. If one takes the time to read through the whole endowment ceremony, I'm sure...
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    Who are the “other sheep” of John 10:16? (For Jehovah's Witnesses)

    That's the problem that I have with mix and match theology. In many cases it is based upon pretext and not presented in its proper context. The way you have presented this is more akin to personal eisegesis than proper biblical exegesis. In cases like this I usually hear tinkling brass. Sorry...
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    How many ages are there?

    The concept comes from Rev. 12:3-4a Revelation 12:3-4 English Standard Version 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And...
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    someone left a case of whisty on my doorstep

    That's how I would sound if I had but a sniff of whisty. :p
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    Who are the “other sheep” of John 10:16? (For Jehovah's Witnesses)

    Revelation 7:4-8 English Standard Version 4 And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: 5 12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed, 12,000 from the tribe of Reuben, 12,000 from the tribe of Gad, 6 12,000 from the tribe of Asher, 12,000 from...
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    THE BIG QURAN THREAD i will be quoting verses. ( funny )

    "And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto...
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    Athens or Jerusalem or Neither?

    This is a better site that shows closely the endowment as it existed prior to 1990, which was the version when I attended in 1976. Parts 2 and 3 show the penalties, which were death oaths borrowed from the Freemasons. Sick and demonic. 1990 LDS Endowment – About The Church of Jesus Christ of...
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    Where’s the outrage?

    The bitter outrage between the eastern and western catholic groups dates back to 1204, when western crusaders who were on the way to the Levant to fight against the muslims, decided to sack Constantinople and rape and pillage their fellow Christian believers. Prior to that, dating back to the...
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    The Great White Throne Judgment (GWT)

    To tell you the truth, any response to the above 5 issues would be purely speculation for me. However I am personally aiming for the first resurrection. ;) Revelation 20:6 English Standard Version 6 Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death...
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    Athens or Jerusalem or Neither?

    Mormon Temple Endowment - 1931 Version The above site gave a security error, but it has more of the information that you were seeking. Try not to yak if you decide to read the whole endowment. When I went to the temple in 1976, the endowment was similar to what this site presents, but was...
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    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    nice long post, but not one bit of it makes any difference to the topic of a Millennium time period on this physical earth AFTER Christ returns. you're welcome to embrace that interpretation of one single 'very spiritual' chapter of the Bible, out of almost 1200, if you like, but the fact...
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    They are without excuse

    no offense/insult intended, but I think you are a bit confused. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. He doesn't change. He is all about justice and judgment. He is not a wet noodle. if He fully condoned, and expected, wicked people to be executed in the Old Testament, you can rest...
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    They are without excuse

    love the sin, hate the sinner ... is a myth. God punishes sinners, not their sins. Jesus didn't die for the Tares. just sayin. Truth is Truth ... even when it's painful or uncomfortable.
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    Why the Protestant Reformation did not unite.

    While point #3 may not be without merit, my question would be; are you merely parroting the teachings of Ellen G. White and the SDA denomination, or do you believe that your above points #1 and #2 are based upon reliable scripture?
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    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    If you are speaking about a millennial reign of Christ upon the earth, then the Tanach indicates that the kingdom will be restored to the progeny of Israel and that event will be a blessing to all nations. Zechariah 8 English Standard Version 7 Thus says the Lord of hosts: Behold, I will...
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    They are without excuse

    I think it's easier to embrace 'destroy' when you fully understand that there are a great number of people in this world who are wicked beyond your wildest imagination. if you could witness (which I have not, thank the Lord) one instance of human sacrifice, or innocent child .... torture and...
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    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    the Day argument is just silly. Jesus wasn't referring to a thousand year period the six times He mentions resurrecting people on the Last Day. that would be silly to interpret it that way. the Peter verse is always misconstrued when the true meaning is obvious right in the verse. a day (in...
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    Unity of the faith - at what cost?

    Good analysis that fits the scripture that you have quoted as well as: Judges 21:25 English Standard Version 25 In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes. Revelation 2:4-5 Amplified Bible 4 But I have this [charge] against you, that you have left...
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    climate change and end times

    yeah, they like to think they're God. they've been controlling the weather since the 50's. they were just dabbling back then though. nothing like what they can do now. the angels that play this HAARP are very dark indeed.