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The purpose of this thread is to discuss the basics of what it means to attain character trait, what it means to have a character trait, and then to understand what the Bible specifically says about the trait of righteousness in a way that does not depart from the simplicity of that framework...

It is important to recognize that the Bible can speak against being required to do works for an incorrect reason without speaking against because required to do them for the reasons that God commanded them, so while it is true that works have no part in earning our salvation, it is false that...

In Titus 2:11-13, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so doing those works has absolutely nothing to do with trying to earn our salvation as the result, but rather God graciously teaching us to be a...

The content of a gift can be the experience of doing something such as giving someone the opportunity to experience driving a Ferrari, where the gift intrinsically requires them to do the work of driving in order to have that experience but where doing that work contributes nothing towards...

Jesus embodied the righteousness of God through His works by living in obedience to God’s law, so that is also the also what we have the gift of getting to do by being given the gift of the righteousness of God. While it is true that Abraham believed God, so he was declared righteous (Genesis...

We can’t become self-righteous even as the result of having perfect obedience to God’s law because it was never given as a way of doing that and that has always been a fundamental misunderstanding of the goal of why we are required to obey it. Rather, God graciously teaching us to be a doer of...

Relying on ourselves does not involve relying on anyone else, so it is contradictory to think that we can become self-righteous by obediently relying on God's instructions. God is trustworthy, therefore His instructions are also trustworthy, so the way to rely on God is by obediently relying on...

That does explain how someone who renounce that training can still accurately be compared to be participating in it.

In Titus 2:11-13, the content of our gift of salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly. So if someone is participating in that training but then rejects the content of their gift of salvation by becoming a...

Those verses notably do not say that Gentiles to not know the law. It would be fantastic if you were able to actually show that I've made errors, but all you have is bluster. I've said nothing contrary to Romans 2:6-16. You said: "According to you, they couldn't be doers of the Law justified...

Which Scriptures do you think have corrected me that I have finished no response to? You asked me to be concise, so I gave summary of what I said. In Matthew 4:15-23, Christ began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the...

I showed that the Law of God is in accordance with the Spirit of grace it is incorrect to interpret following the letter as referring to correctly obeying it. The goal of the Law of God is to teach us how to know God Jesus by being a doer of His character traits, which is the narrow way to...

Circumcision or uncircumcision is shorthand for referring to Jews or Gentiles, so Paul was essentially saying that what matters is not whether someone is a Jew or a Gentle, but whether they are obeying the commands of God. God has not commanded any that was not in accordance with His Spirit or...

It is important to recognize that the Bible can speak against being required to obey God for an incorrect reason without speaking against being required to obey God. The fact that we can't earn our justification/righteousness/salvation/eternal life even as the result of having perfect obedience...

Jesus and the Apostles quoted from the OT hundreds of times in order to support what they said, so there is cognitive dissonance in someone taking the position that we should only follow what they said but not what they considered to be an authoritative source. For example, in Matthew 4, Jesus...

It depends somewhat on how terms are defined because people have different ideas about what it means to be a Christian or a member of Christianity. Christ set a perfect example for us to follow of how to practice Judaism by walking in sinless obedience to the Torah, and we are told to follow...

The issue of the way that someone attain a character trait is different from the issue of what it means for someone to have a character trait. Character traits are not something that can be earned as the result of our works, so there is no amount of works that we are required to have done first...

Being declared righteous apart from works refer to be declared righteous apart from being required to have first done any works in order to earn it as the result, but does not refer to becoming righteous apart from becoming a doer of righteous works. Paul said that the same faith by which we...

It is important to recognize that the Bible can speak against doing something for an incorrect reason without speaking against being required to do it for the correct reasons. The fact that we can’t earn our justification, righteousness, or salvation even as the result of having perfect...

Jesus affirmed in that parable that those who have just Moses and the Prophets can be saved and that those who listen to them will be saved. Likewise, Hebrews 11, it lists examples of people who had saving faith in spite of having never read the NT, so that is not a requirement for salvation.