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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    The problem with that scenario is it makes Jesus a liar, because He said He wasn’t a spirit - and said a spirit has no t flesh and bones as you see I have - and had the apostles touch Him, and then ate a meal to prove it. And since spirits can’t die, they aren’t ever resurrected.
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    Cognitive dissonance at work again. 1. Jesus said He would rise bodily 2.Jesus said he’s not a spirit and showed His body to the apostles and 500 others for 40 days 3. Jesus bodily and visibly ascended to heaven, on a cloud, from mount Olive, and the angel prophesied He would return exactly the...
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    Why are so many Christians still so confused about the afterlife?

    You can write OPs all day long, but you’re still wrong. The contents of the hill are thrown into the lake of fire - all those people waiting judgment are thrown into the lake of fire after judgment. And there is a death angel, that’s how death could be thrown into the lake of fire too. When...
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    But the apostles are found in the Bible, and they wrote a creed, a doctrinal creed to explain what they, the apostles of Jesus Christ, teach is in the Bible. None of the watchtower writings are in the Bible either, but you believe every word as if it’s the gospel, even though it’s clear they...
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    Tongues

    You can’t just pick the verses you like, and ignore the rest, because Paul said there are diversities of tongues, that means more than one kind. And the New Testament shows there is the Acts 2 tongue, which is understood by everyone, and there is unknown tongue never understood by anyone because...
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    Why are so many Christians still so confused about the afterlife?

    Actually, if you read the account of the rich man in hell and Luke chapter 16, you find there are two compartments in Hades at that time, separated by a great chasm. The paradise compartment, a.k.a. Abrahams Bosom, held the souls of the righteous Old Testament dead, who could not ascend to...
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    Why are so many Christians still so confused about the afterlife?

    Sorry, but hell cannot be the lake of fire, because,hell its thrown into the lake of fire, in Revelation. You can’t throw hell into hell. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And in the account of the rich man in hell and Luke chapter 16...
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    The trinity in the apostles creed is right. Romans 8 confirms the spirit of Christ and spirit of God are one in nature. Rom 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    I deny your bogus interpretation of scripture, you bet.
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    They weren’t made Patsys, they wanted and desired to kill people because of their evil satanic religion straight from the pits of hell called Islam - The globalists which I now know include all the Bushes, enabled them to succeed in their plot by not stopping them.
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    How to be saved (born again) and join the family of God!!!

    You have no clue what THE LIKE FIGURE is at all, do you? So ya just ignore that part and quote that baptism now saves us, completely ignorant of the fact that it means water baptism is a symbol of what really saves us.
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    What does born again mean?

    One is either in the covenant or damned/condemned. There’s not two different destinies for Gods people, one in heaven, one on earth. Paul was the apostle to the gentiles, yet he taught the kingdom everywhere he went, to Jew and gentile, and wrote that they all are one in Christ Jesus. Paul...
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    Salami, salami, baloney.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Looks like the nuances of salvation escape your narrow understanding. Jesus’ atonement in effect put forgiveness of the sins of the whole world in the bank, and faith and repentance writes the check that withdraws the forgiveness of sins and transfers it to your account. Until the check is...
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    Jesus said He and the father are one, and said He who has seen Him has seen the father. Your trying to use your intellect to analyze what God can, or cannot be, is like a bacteria trying to understand and define a man. What is, IS as they say. That Elohim is a plural name for god and not...
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    Your theology seems to demand God being limited to just one aspect - instead of having both great love for good coupled with great hate for sin and evil. Your version of God is simplistic and one dimensional, and is not the God revealed in the Bible.
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    No one is sentenced to the lake of fire for a pro or con trinity belief. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and...
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    You're trying to spin it, but that won’t wash. That’s not a reasonable interpretation of the facts. The body of believers in Christ wasn’t destroyed and raised up in three days. His physical body was. Jesus received the Holy Spirit at His baptism, thus His body became a temple of the Holy...
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    Controversial... Hence debate forum.

    They know exactly what pilot training school the pilots went to in Florida, including the fact that one of them said he didn’t need to know how to land, just how to take off and fly.
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    They have their names and pictures - they are not anonymous. Here’s Newsweek with names and nationality of all 19 hijackers - all were Saudis, and all were Al Qaeda: Who were the 9/11 Hijackers? The 19 Al-Qaeda Members who carried out terrorist attack And Al Jazeera Arab news says Bin Laden...