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  1. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Very strong point there, even happened to have me taken back for a moment to ponder the possibility. Well that's not the case, now about the thief's death and not been baptized, and is in paradise, is true. But on the other hand, there are those living who are baptized, also they're being...
  2. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    It was as simple as that even a child of GOD in the Kingdom could perceive, since Christ was also baptized in water and till to the book of Acts 'water baptism' was. But now there's a controversy doctrine that, 'water' refers to the 'water in the bag birth' from the mother's womb. Since the...
  3. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Matthew 16: 20. Then charged He His disciples that they should tell no man that He was Jesus the Christ. Looks like Jesus in other words charging His disciples that it is not necessary for them to tell any man that He's the Christ. Since based on the passage the controversy, those who don't...
  4. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Matthew 16: 17. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but My FATHER which is in Heaven. Matthew 13: 11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of...
  5. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Luke 1: 32. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord GOD shall give unto Him the throne of His father David: 33. And He shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of His Kingdom there shall be no end. This is the 'Key of David', Jesus now holds as Lord...
  6. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Read my #39, The 'key' am referring to is according to the tread topic in Matthew 16: 13-20, it is not written as 'key' in the passage. But am testifying there's someone in the same passage, figuratively speaking have the 'key', to lock' or 'unlock' the minds of the Israelites. Whether to...
  7. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Lets get back to this, brethren, thanks.
  8. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    He that hath the 'key' of David refers to Kingship authority and power, since He is the final King of Israel. And to Heaven and earth, He's Lord of lords and King of kings. Have the 'keys' of 'hell' and of 'death'. Since He's conquered 'sin', 'death' and 'second death to hell', He now have...
  9. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Right! But the focus here is based on Matthew 16:13-20 Why for the lack of their understanding did not qualify the public, but did qualify the disciples who also lacking? And there's someone there who's able to 'lock' and 'unlock' knowledge/teaching to their understanding.
  10. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Best we don't go by our opinion but what alone the scripture 'depicts'. Apparently, 'key' is used to 'lock' and 'unlock' something. 'Key' to the knowledge/teaching of the Kingdom based on the Old Testament are held finally by the 'scribes' and 'Pharisees'. (Matthew ch, 23) 'Key' to the...
  11. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Matthew 16:13-20 Why their lack of understanding did not yet qualify them? It's in the passage, and also who holds the 'key' of their understanding. Thank you
  12. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Makes a very strong case, had to sit back and reckon with your points, do have a weight to it. They would never learn at all on their own to use the 'key', because the 'key' is held by 'someone', to 'lock' and 'unlock'. Jesus could only proclaim and perform to the things pertaining to the...
  13. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Sorry, you have a very strong point, is what i mean, thank you. Mark 7:36, i believe Jesus forbid the people who brought the deaf and dumb, not to inform the public about the healing He's done. Matthew 16:20, Jesus forbid His disciples not to let the public know He's the Messiah. So we have...
  14. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    P.S. There are those of the house of Jacob even today, who're descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel.
  15. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    You have one point there above that is the main conclusion to the story, can you see it, thank you?
  16. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Friend, Matthew chapter 7, have only 29 verses. Also the rejection and counter productive disturbance was already there since the beginning but no man could do anything to Him nor His ministry for 3 years. Since the beginning as a child, Herod already sort to kill Him, since prophetically the...
  17. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Again, Doug have brought out a very interesting point, to why Christ forbid the disciples from letting the public know He's the 'Messiah'? i believe the answer is there in the context of that story, go for it brethren, thank you
  18. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Liar, for i did not use any teaching of those of the pulpits, but rather according to 2 Timothy 3: 16&17. You're 'shortsighted' and 'blunt' in your 'folly' testament, and there's proof based on my given counter testament. i let true believers to be a judge of that, but between you and me we...
  19. Fred J

    WHY DID JESUS SAY NOT TO MAKE HIM KNOWN?

    Right, 'white sepulchre', but we Gentiles before becoming saved, we were worse than them. As Jesus referred us as 'dogs, since our nature was wild as dogs, even we tend to bite back to what is good of GOD. Nevertheless, when Jesus on the Cross, as He was crucified, bruise, wounded, mocked and...
  20. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    No thank you. All you say about me is 'untrue' and 'false', it's your say and not mine. You also don't read mine and take under consideration, so let's leave it as it is.