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  1. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    The word, 'dear' is used when we're writing a letter to a male or female. On the other hand, am sticking to 'born again' because it suites well with the context. John 3: 4. Nicodemus saith unto Him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second tine into his mother's womb, and...
  2. Fred J

    What is your take? Satan was the Religious Zealots of that time.

    Scripturally, satan wasn't the religious Jewish Pharisee, but rather, the god of this world who've blinded the minds of unbelievers. Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ
  3. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION? BEFORE Empty words and no scripture reference and verses to support such claim. Sadly, sometimes it's like watching 'looney tunes' in action, ones having all the time in the world. Same like when Prophet Samuel visited the house of Jesse, likewise...
  4. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    GOD is not an author of confusion but of peace, and have given us HIS inspired Holy Bible sufficient scriptures for faith and good works. (2Timothy3:16&17) To testify the same, 'as it is written', and according to the wisdom given us to minister the full truth. And unchanging, is done over and...
  5. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Peace be with you in Jesus name. Am merely an unworthy servant by the grace of GOD, an earthen 'vessel' like other members of faith. Where GOD had 'stored' HIS new and old treasures, which we bring forth in service according to our calling. In the New Testament, GOD through Jesus Christ and...
  6. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Dear John, Whether we're 'born from above' or 'born again', to us they're same according to the wisdom given us from above and the inspired context of the New Testament scriptures. In the Old Testament scripture context, the GOD of Israel refers to the 'angels' as the 'sons of GOD', and to the...
  7. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    We testify based on the wisdom given us and by the discipleship of All Scripture = Holy Bible. (2Timothy3:16&17) Basically when we take scripture out of context it can give us a not so pleasant picture of GOD, compared to the context. Based on the context, GOD is not a 'dictator' who murders...
  8. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Dear true born again brethren, IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION? Thank you to the one who posted this thread, GOD bless in Jesus name, for it benefits HIS lambs and sheep. Don't listen to any man, especially foes in your own household of faith, for one's a liar while the other a...
  9. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    1 Thessalonians 4:16&17 Revelation 6:11 Also according to the parable of the Ten Virgins and prophecy, one will be taken and the other left behind. The parable of the Ten Virgins, the ten were 'virgins', unblemished during the Lord's return. But merely half of them were 'ready' and...
  10. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You don't have to, the scripture exposes the spirit of error from the spirit of truth based on the discussion. You tend to rant and rail, and it's pointless to discuss with heart hardened people. No, thank you.
  11. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Thank you, ahhh...... very refreshing, so you reckon the rapture will take place at mid-Great Tribulation, before the wrath of GOD on the ungodly. Where in Matthew chapter 24 or in other verses, read that the rapture shall take place at mid-Great Tribulation? We have Revelation 7:14, where the...
  12. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Don't be curious, but bring out scripture references to back up your claim, of the rapture is before the wrath of GOD, that am curious about. Thank you since it's a Bible Study Forum
  13. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Apparently he's parroting what is of others and haven't a clue nor scripture references. Some thing he said about paradise made sense, but himself haven't a clue nor added scripture reference to back it up. My advice is imitate your Master Jesus, who did not sit down with Nicodemus and...
  14. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Don't think but rather quote the scriptures, thank you.
  15. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    The problem is you, are you saying GOD made a mistake? Or HE allowed men to make that mistake and have us believers deceived by scripture variance? According to the context of the scripture what's the problem, whether it's 'born again' or 'born from above'? Being born again is being born from...
  16. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    It makes a lot of carnal sense apparently on the contrary, but it's not what Jesus spiritually meant. When Jesus calls people to be 'born again', Nicodemus understood better than our carnal senses. Nicodemus know he was born naturally from the water bag in his mother's womb. Since it was...
  17. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    You're right because Jesus commended Mary's choice and gently corrected Martha's physical 'agitation' choice that Mary is not helping her. Nevertheless, the women followers of Jesus and His disciples about their spiritual quest for GOD, who provided the physical part of their needs...
  18. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Looks like readers are finding difficulty to straighten this mysterious claim of rebuilder 454. His claim corresponds with those rose from their grave as Christ resurrected on the third day. Therefore this debunks and rule out the scripture that reads, Christ is the firstfruit/firstborn from...
  19. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Readers, do you believe that, 'Jesus preached to those(souls) that died in the flood'?? 1 Peter 3: 19. By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of GOD waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing...
  20. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Ciao, is this your perception in regards to verse 5, am bit taken back? You mean that the water bag in the mother womb where the baby is, of that is the natural water birth Jesus is speaking about in verse 5? Perhaps am wrong? Based on the New Testament scripture in context, i perceive it the...