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So you believe the eternal fire of Sodom is still going? Jude 1:7 ”Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Hebrews 6:2 says eternal judgment. Do you believe that God will be judging saved and unsaved for all eternity? In other words, Matthew 25:46 is similar to Hebrews 6:2.

I also believe the rich man was tormented by the flame in hell. I believe hell is a literal and real place, but the Lake of Fire is a different place than hell. The function of the Lake of Fire is to destroy things. It is the final punishment of the wicked after the Judgment.

I agree. We should pray for them.

While I am strongly against ECT, I am not so sure the Bible would condemn a person for holding to Eternal Torment. I think most are just following the crowd and they don’t realize the implications of such a belief. I would need a verse or passage that would explictly teach that a person...

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To all: Just so that everyone here may know, one of my old write-ups on another forum was the inspiration behind my recent post. https://www.christianforums.com/threads/biblical-metaphors-shed-light-on-hams-sin-in-noahs-tent.8052005/ May the Lord Jesus Christ and His good ways shine upon you all.

Biblical Metaphors and the Test From God (To See If You Truly Believe He is Fair and Good) I believe this topic is a test—a test from God. God wants people to believe that He is good and He is into fair justice. In fact, we see from the Scriptures that a person having a mindset of wooden...

To all: Universalism (Liberalism) is not even worthy as a discussion or debate because it is too gross of a distortion of the Bible, and fair justice to the point of making a person not even care about God and His good ways. Universalism’s version of Purgatory is not going to deter people to...

See, rather than deal with the actual points I made, you just make a comment or opinion like you are right with no actual need of defense or evidence for your position.

Right, your cartoon illustrates a good point in a person not believing God’s Word. We can say the same thing when you read words like ”eternal destruction” in 2 Thessalonians 1:9, and or when you read the words “second death” in Revelation 21:8.

If you really think about this it is a moral problem placed upon God in the fact that He is not into fair justice. It's not fair justice to punish somebody beyond what the crime calls for. Meaning, to punish somebody for eternity for a finite amount of sins is not fair justice. It's immoral...

First, the words "night and day" and "for ever and ever" is taken from Isaiah 34:10, and we realize that the smoke of Edom will not go up for all eternity seeing Jesus said Heaven and Earth will not pass away and seeing Revelation 22:1 says that the Earth will pass away. You cannot have a city...

The Bible is the written Word of God. But that ddoes not mean all words in the Bible are His own words. Again, do you believe that when the apostle John, said, “Come Lord Jesus” that it was words that the apostle John said or it was Jesus speaking? I answered your question, and now it is...

I will happily answer your questions if they are based on the topic (Which is ECT vs. Conditional Immortality). If you believe I missed it, then I will go back and answer it. But you must realize that you have not answered all of my questions, though.

I am not picking on them. Unless you have not followed along in this line of discussion, I am merely stating that just because the Jew's writings today favor ECT, they cannot be used to defend ECT. Why? Well, they are not a reliable source for spiritual discernment because they held to...

I only say so because you have not done so in this discussion so far. If you are willing to address each of my points specifically in detail that I have made for Conditional Immortality, I would love to be proven wrong on this point. It's not much of an insult than it is to challenge you to...

That's not really an answer to my question. You are dodging the point or issue and just throwing down the hammer of judgment mindlessly. Don't be that guy in the mob with the pitchfork in one hand and a torch in the other. Don't be that cliche character in the movie that is an insult to the...

However, you have not addressed my points in defense of Conditional Immortality. That is more of a challenging task that I believe you are not capable of doing. Then again, I would like to be proven wrong on this point. So do you accept the challenge?

Why don't you address the points that really focus on this topic?