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I agree that the 144000 will go out to preach the Good News. However, I believe they are the Jews which will have their eyes opened by God and recognize Jesus as their Messiah and preach the Word and the Testimony of Jesus as Paul did … and this will cause chaos all over the world especially...

Thank you and I agree with you!

Thank you! I haven’t heard of Tony Warren or his site but it looks interesting. Thanks for the link!

Dougg, I am going blind looking at your charts. Their tortuous! I would ask that you immediately eat them - they will taste like honey to you but will make your stomach sick. Once again (and by that I mean for the millionth time) look for Jesus in Daniel- He is being spoken of in much of...

In my opinion, there is absolutely no reason this is speaking about economic buying and selling. It fits in perfectly with the little horn (papacy), who practice selling indulgences, which positions of power, etc. to receive salvation, stay out of hell or purgatory, get dead relatives out of...

If you meant the papacy or little horn is given only 42 months, that is not true… he must continue until the end when he is destroyed without human hands.

No, the 42 months represents the 1260 days or 3.5 years when the time of the Gentiles is over and God removes the blindness from the eyes of His people and they recognize the one they had pierced. Then, the 144,000 go out into the world for 3.5 years preaching the Good News just as Paul did and...

By the way, my daughter and son in law are vacationing in New Zealand for a couple of weeks. They are now in the city where the Ironman challenge is or was taking place. It is such a beautiful country and the food and people, she says are amazing!!!!

My first thought is that Mt. Zion is symbolic for heaven. I need to study 14 tomorrow… my mind is fried.

Thanks. My first reading is that these first few verses are symbolic, and I need to continue trying to understand them!

Oh, I forgot… the papacy is absolutely the little horn and he is also the sea beast. The red dragon is of course Satan, and the earth beast is the one who is specifically found to have one purpose- to support and promote the sea beast. He has been very active for over 400 years on this earth...

No way !!! Yes, there were, and are thousands if not millions, if not billions of people who could easily be labeled as an “anti-Christ” individual. I would certainly say that most of my life I fit that description better than most. But that is a term that means anyone who goes against the Word...

So, first you are saying perhaps the first verses 1-5 are literal? God is on earth? Then, verses 6-13 are literal or symbolic? What about verses 14-20, are they literal or symbolic? I believe Chapter 15 might be the time just before the bowls are thrown down which I would imagine represents...

No, because of that crazy chart of yours! You have a mix of Daniel in there and who knows what else. This is what I mentioned the you many times, and as recently as this past week: there is no 7 year tribulation, there is no anti-Christ, the 2300 days belongs to the Messiah at His first...

Okay, I am now starting chapter 14 and notice we have the 144000 standing with God on Mt. Zion, or is this in heaven (Mt. Zion is the symbol here). Have the 144000 been brought up to heaven... I don't remember seeing that in chapter 13. I see 3 angels shouting a few things and rhen in verse 14...

Dougg, you gott seek some help for this....exorcism or deworming or a strong laxative ....Come on man...

that sounds like a bad basketball ream in the G league... as Biden would say, "Come on man..."

who are they? You are merely cutting and pasting from Revelation. Who are these two?

Why do you say that? I have them both as a man - the sea beast is the papacy - the little horn of Daniel 7 and 8 who is prophecised in Daniel to continue until the end when he will be destroyed without human hands.

does anyone else have an idea of who the sea and the earth beast are?