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this is incorrect as even a cursory look at the verse shows. It says "Haying predestined US, not having predestined to adopt children. we are predestined to be adopted. It cannot be read correctly any other way.

None of us deserve what God gives us because of Jesus! we just must receive them from the hands of a loving and merciful God. And yes, it will never be enough. We can either allow the suffering to overwhelm us and put us in some funk, or we can accept the call of God and do what He wishes to...

No we are all chosen (predestined) before eh earth was formed. Ephesians 1 King James Version 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: 2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord...

It still does nothing to prove the earth is billions of years old. At most teh earth is 10K years. That allows for skipped generations and that Adam walked on earth for X time before the fall.

OT saints were part of the belieivng remnant of Israel in the OT. Saved Jews in the NT are part of the body and part of the believing remnant God has in Israel in all ages!

You truly are sad. You do not know the Joy God wishes you to have. In this life there will be insufferable misery. Eternity for the redeemed will be nothing but eternal bliss!

Matthias replaced Judas! And if you read the passages it is not the image of Jesus that was predestined, but we are predestined to be conformed!

Well it is fact, so how the common human views it is kind of an irrelevancy. I am sure most people dislike it very much, but truth is truth whether we like it or not.

ICR and their in depth text books did it for me.

agree 100%

Of course not, but we have been talking post cross as the OP{ aabout Paul stated.

Mankind's ego and stubbornness to submit to God!

Guess He was the first Jehovah Witness in being invisibly returned!hlfclfhlfh

Well all your philosophizing is 20 centuries removed and all these scholares are making their egghead guesses. Johns gospel is an excellent apologetic against Gnosticism which is what John wrote it for. So you are saying at least 17 centuries of faithful believers have been deceived and you...

Yes we are. We may not have the same calling But Romans 8 and ephesians 2 show believers are chosen, predestined and foreordained! You are saying God the Father only gave Jesus 11 (not Judas) that is inherently and biblically wrong!

Well I cannot argue with allegorical opinions because they are just what you think but do not have a solid basis in Scripture. As for the 3.5 years, we do not know the start and finish of the two witnesses. We make best guesses which we shouldn't do. But the antichrist and the last half of...

Yes and they are part of teh body of christ, the church. all saved Jews in the dispensation of grace are part of the body and part of the remnant of Israel.

Yeah. I went from an ardent evolutionist, got saved then became a theistic evolutionist. Then I graduated to the gap theory and now I am fully a young earther. I was converted to it by applying the rules of science to the theory of evolution and taking known indisputable facts and realized...

well they call them theories but proclaim them as facts.

You wrongly connected Is. 34 with the 70th week of Daniel. YOu also forget that the Battle of Armageddon takes place 3 1/2 years after the antichrist rises from the dsead and begins his global rule. Reev. 16 shows the last angel pours vial to gather the world armies for Armageddon.