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Funny, I was just talking with ChatGPT about this very issue. I think some (few) have eternal punishment, because they are guilty of an infinitely offensive sin (blaspheming the Spirit) that they can never repay. Mt 18 "you will not get out of there until you have paid the uttermost farthing"...

I don't know why they don't allow discussions on the issue, but they have to have their reasons. Sorry about that. God bless you! "Grace and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ!"

When the topic is discussed, people dig in to the text. I was edified by the discussion.

It's an interesting question. It's a good edifying discussion, in my experience.

If it's from the Lord, as it was with Paul, yes, we accept it. The two are not mutually exclusive : Paul PRAYED to Christ, and Christ said "No", so accepting the darkness sent by Christ is one and the same as accepting God's Word. Christ is more concerned with our spiritual deliverance from...

Thanks. The Bible explains  why the Lord gave him a thorn in the flesh, but doesn’t explain exactly what it was; that is why the thread asks what it was.

Agree. 2 John 1 7For many deceivers have gone out into the world, refusing to confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8Watch yourselves, so that you do not lose what we have worked for,a but that you may be fully rewarded. 9Anyone...

1a. Since the Lord's purpose in sending a messenger of satan to attack his body was to prevent Paul from boasting, and boasting is a sin, and God's will for us is our sanctification, it would make no sense for the same Lord to have sent a messenger of satan to cause Paul to sin by being filled...

If you are done, that's fine, but I'm regularly surprised by renewed interest in threads I thought were "done"; as a result, I remain open to continued interaction by others.

LOL Yeah, we didn't choose Him, He chose us, but, yes, we believed! You know how, in Ezekiel, it says God will bring the people back to the land in their uncleanness, and there, in the land, He will sprinkle them with water? I wonder if this means something for Christians--ie, He brings us into...

Yup, we were His sheep BEFORE we ever heard the name "Jesus", and He came and collected us--we didn't choose Christ.

Just as God forgets sin, He forgets righteousness (Ezekiel 18:24; Jeremiah 31:34).

If God's ability to forget righteousness holds true, since He doesn't change, then there really was righteousness (ie, faith--"the righteousness of faith") to forget, thus all of these "well, no, he didn't REALLY believe, cus if he had he would've been saved FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER" caveats...

OSAS is true, because God can forget not only sin but also righteousness (Ezekiel 18:24)--if someone who has partaken of Christ does not endure until the end in faith, their partaking retroactively never occurs (Heb 3). The odd result of this is that no one loses salvation, but Christ keeps all...

Well, I suspected English wasn't your first language. It's not a big deal. "Love does no harm" (Ro 13). Who ever wants to reply will reply--if no one replies, the thread dies. That's fine. Not sure what this means.

Yeah, that happens sometimes--whether it's because they know they can't prove otherwise, or for what ever other reason, there are lulls at times.

If you did not intend to express disagreement, then, I am sorry to say, you do not know how to express yourself in English.

You said you disagreed, and your reasoning was... I never said there was no effort or obedience, nor that God did all the work and we lift not our hands at all on our own. So, how am I "jumping to conclusions"? You said you disagreed with me on the basis that I ostensibly said there was no...

You are not interacting with the topic.

You haven't read carefully, because I didn't say anything contrary to this. I've tried to explain over and over. You can go back and read what I've already written--I don't think I should waste my effort explaining when you don't read.