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We can only be graceful to others as we have become aware in our experience of the extent of grace towards us.

Yes Ernie, you have many concerns about yourself so I would ask, do you KNOW Jesus.....or do just find him a means to an end?

It sounds like you have substituted the bible for Jesus. The bible says having slaves is acceptable, going to war is the done thing, there is no problem with genocide, etc etc. Wake up! Jesus defines the new covenant. He doesn't use the limitations of men's limited vision and the concessions...

Animal sacrifices were better than human sacrifices. It was a concession on God's part. Divorce was also a concession on God's part as was Israel having a king.....including many other things. God doesn't need gifts or payment as if he is lacking something or needs appeasing. LOVE is his M.O...

Yes, 'box' is my word, but the idea is there irrespective of the word I use. Men try to box Jesus. They want to make him in their image instead of realising and taking him as an unprecedented player....and hearing him.

Consider this Anchorite, When Jesus was asked, what sign do you give us? Matthew 12: 38-40 Why didn't he say, you have the daily sacrifices which you do regularly? Instead, he says, the only sign you guys get is the sign of Jonah. Never once did Jesus send people to the Priests or the temple...

I don't think God has put himself into any box, why would he? LIFE forever expands and never ends. Boxes are for those who feel threatened, it keeps them safe in their own realities.

I think you've missed its point Anchorite. I think its point is to awaken us to the fact that God is greater than the restricted box men have put him in. The particular restriction put onto God is that he cannot go outside of what men insist him to be.

.....and so we choose HOW we see!

The description above is beautifully concise. Consider the implications.

The return of Jesus is a rescue mission for his people because humankind is about to implode by its own hand. Here is how I picture it, you might see it differently. The return of Jesus could take some time ie, from when first it comes to human awareness. Something with be noticed from a...

How we hear is critical Br. Jesus chastised his disciples because of this. Matthew 15:16.... Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them...

AoG, you say you accept Mathetria's opinion all the while fighting it. That's as obvious as falling off a log to me....but you do have the right to live within your denial.

I think the communications of Mathetria have been very gracious. I also think your responses are of a nature that indicate you do feel threatened. You say, 'It's a matter of humility, accepting the opinions of others.' Can you not do that?

Reject them if you choose; nobody is twisting your arm. If you think the words of certain mystics are wrong, why do you feel threatened by them? You could just shrug them off and introduce greater wisdom if you have it.

yup, send the paint back to the oil companies! :shockedx

For certain. Discerning between truth and lies on these platforms is often a bit of a trick. 'How we hear' as Jesus said, is absolutely important (Luke 18:18) How we hear, not just what we hear, determines what we end up believing.

The rationale used in your posts is faulty AoG. Here are two examples from your immediate post; Relying on numbers to give your view credibility does not give it credibility. Your charge of Mathetria having a problem is a projection. It is you who have the problem with Mathetria; it is you who...

My dear, holy means seperate as resting does from labouring. The religious Jews in Jesus day burdened people with requirements they dreamed up. We are to make sure we don't do the same.......besides, you can ask God for clarity. When all is said and done, I have found it helpful to sidestep...

It's unfortunate MD, that you wont engage when prompted and are emotionally distant.