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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    It's true! God did choose a race of people from before the foundation of the earth, they are the faithful race from HUMAN BEINGS! Those of faith throughout the whole human race were not chosen according to ethnicity, but according to God's grace through faith! I doubt C&Z have even the...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Why do you single out the nation of Israel above every other nation of the earth? What promises of God has the nation of Israel not exclusively received? If you believe that Israel exclusively is yet to be blessed by God, you are a Zionist! You are a Zionist Dispensationalist. Christian...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    What prophet says that God will use "national Israel" to vindicate His holy name? How does the fact that Israel became a nation again prove that they nationally will be blessed by God more so than any other peoples of the earth?
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    You're trying to prove the nation of Israel after the first advent of Christ have not received every single promise given exclusively to the nation of Old. Paul does not help you prove this Zionist mindset. Romans 3:1-3 (KJV) What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    What in this verse is exclusively to the nation of Israel? Romans 9:4 (KJV) Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; How does the following passage help you to understand to...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    How do these passages prove God promised the nation of Israel something exclusively for them that He did not promise to every other nation of the world?
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    What promise did God make to them (national Israel?) that He did not make to every nation of the earth? It cannot be the promised land of Cannan, because that promise was fulfilled completely when Joshua led the nation into Cannan, and the land was divided accordingly between the twelve tribes...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Who do you think Paul is addressing this letter to? Who are beloved of God, called of Jesus Christ, the saints if not the Church that is in Rome? Paul is addressing Christians in Rome that are both Jews and Gentiles of faith together. The same people he refers to in 9-11 as the "Israel of...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    What did God choose them for? If the biological descendants of Jacob were those chosen to be saved, why did the multitude of them die in the wilderness in unbelief? Read Deuteronomy 4 in context and it's plain that God chose the biological seeds of Jacob to inherit the promised land. They...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Yes, it's called the HUMAN RACE! People from throughout the human race who are of faith are His people! But only those physically related to Jacob spiritually are of the New Covenant through Christ. Those who remain in unbelief shall meet with the same fate as that of Israel of Old that died...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    That's because you are still locked to a physical nation called Israel. You have no ability to understand the Kingdom of God that Christ came with that includes peoples from all nations is NOT the physical Kingdom that was of Old! It is the spiritual Kingdom of God that every human of faith...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You are NOT defending the truth! You are trying desperately to defend a lie! If you could defend your doctrine you would be able to explain the contradictions and confusion your doctrine forces into the Word of God. You choose rather not to even try to address the inconsistencies your...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    No! You are foolishly defending what you have been TAUGHT! You cannot make a defense from the Word of God yourself, because your unbiblical doctrine is not found FROM Scripture, but FORCED upon the Word of God. It's one thing to be deceived, but God help those who would choose to be a deceiver!
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Here also we better understand what is written. Peter calls them "people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy". Clearly this is not reference to Jews not having obtained mercy from God. It is of Christians, as Christ's church on earth, the faithful saints of...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    That's the problem with dispensational Zionist as yourself. You think the proper way to understand is by using that which was of Old to prove the New Covenant. You have it exactly backwards. It is the New that helps us to more fully understand that which was of Old. Of Old there was only one...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    You see how you continue to cling to your unbiblical doctrine! Being a Christian Zionist you have no understanding of Scripture, which is why you continue to distort the Word of God trying to make salvation according to ethnicity as least for Jews. You think the biological seeds of Abraham...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    If I thought it would make a difference, but since I know it will not I'll not be wasting my time.
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    How could you possibly agree with written truth since you only quote that which fits your unbiblical doctrines?
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Why do you stop before considering these dispersed Jews along with verse 2, where it is written, "elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father"? Will you also limit the elect of God to only these dispersed Jews? 1 Peter 1:2 (KJVSL) Elect ἐκλεκτός according κατά to the...