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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    In life they had part in the first resurrection and died for their faithfulness! That's how we know "a thousand years" is not ONE thousand years to come, but symbolically represents time in which they lived in faith. They died once, they won't be resurrected bodily only to die again! But they...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    When were these saints martyred? They were faithful unto death because in life before they died, they "lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Are you too implying these faithful saints would be bodily resurrected to life again, only to die again? That is what must happen because...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    Explain the purpose for this imagined first bodily resurrection again that shall come before the last trumpet sounds???
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    The problem with Premil is you cannot tell the difference between a bodily resurrection to life again, and THE bodily resurrection immortal & incorruptible that shall not be until the last trumpet sounds. You have people being resurrected again only to die again! Because without immortal &...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    Why do you believe that a man MUST be bodily resurrected to life, only to die again? Because that would be the result for any human physically resurrected to life again before the last trumpet announces resurrection to immortal & incorruptible bodily life? Your doctrine imagines some of...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    When we read of the "first resurrection" it is ALWAYS the bodily resurrection of Christ! Because it is through His resurrection life that mankind MUST have part in to overcome the second death, and in fact the only way to both know and enter the (spiritual) Kingdom of God! Christ is not only...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    There has only been ONE immortal bodily resurrection of the dead. The one resurrected immortal is Christ alone! No other human shall be bodily resurrected immortal before the hour that is coming, when the last trumpet sounds and time shall be no longer. That's why mankind MUST have part in...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    John the Baptist was not the only prophecies of Old about Jesus. The prophet also foretells of the virgin Mary who would be the one to conceive and bear a son whose name would be called Immanuel, or God with us. The timing for the advent of Christ cannot begin with her because it doesn't fit...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Why would you think they are not included?
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    The Church, consisting of all who have been anointed through the Spirit stand by/for the Lord of the whole earth. 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 (KJV) Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    The problem for me is that I don't believe you prove what you allege from the Word of God. The two anointed ones IMO are the two witnesses. They are two olive trees, symbolizing the Church of Old Covenant made manifest through the Law and Prophets that foretell of the Messiah who was to come...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    How do you prove the timing leads to the ministry of John the Baptist, since the prophesy says nothing at all about him? Ezra 1:2-3 (KJV) Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at...
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Yea, it seems the foolish believed they could be saved by association, as those in the judgment believing their good deeds would be enough to save them. These fools seemed to believe they too could have eternal life just by being among Christians.
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Your timing doesn't work because you begin counting from Artaxerxes, but the decree began with Cyrus. But the decrees given by the three was not new decrees but the same decree that was issued and re-issued. Here are the dates for when the three Kings decreed and re-issued: BC 538 Cyrus...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    We all know the right way to understand the passion week was fulfilled in seven days. It's historical fact! But there is more to the prophecy that you don't seem to understand. The timing of Daniel's prophecy PROVES Christ is Messiah the Prince promised to come. And He did come at exactly at the...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I don't know if you've been following all the discussions. I'm referring you back what I believe is the proper way to understand Dan 9 prophesy. "But there is a reason for the separation of the final seven weeks of years. It took a little research and much thinking for me to figure out why...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    David, it is not my intention to try to convince anyone of any particular doctrine. Why would I be so foolish to try to convince anyone since I am not the Holy Spirit. My purpose for posting in these forums is to prove truths from the Scriptures. I did NOT bring my understanding of...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    The blessed and holy are NOT blessed and holy because they are first to be physically resurrected. They are blessed and holy because in life before they died (a/the thousand symbolic years) they had part in the first resurrection, that is they became partakers in the resurrection life of Christ...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    We take part in the first resurrection during our life times. Every time someone has been born again through the Spirit sent from Christ in us, we have part in the first resurrection. How? By having part in the resurrection life of Christ, who is the first resurrection of the dead! Nowhere...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    Yes, two bodily resurrections. The first resurrection to life from physical death is the resurrection of Christ. Then there shall be the bodily resurrection of all who are in the graves in an hour that is coming, when the last trumpet sounds and time given this earth whereby man must be saved...