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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    No,he said he saw them living. They are not dead as you claim. "They came to life " 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God...
  2. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    I'm not saying . Revelation says it You don't take revelation seriously though. "They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them." Revelation 20 7 When the thousand years are over, Satan...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    No.It does not say they are dead.It says they lived. Did you even read revelation 20 at all? " "and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Revelation 20 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded...
  4. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Read it. They are on the breadth of the earth when Gog surrounds them .They are not in the heavens where the fire comes down from. Revelation 20 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    John saw the souls of them in revelation 20 being surrounded by Gog and the nation in Jerusalem.Thag is when fire comes down out of heaven and devours Gog who had surrounded the resurected saints.
  6. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    I know the souls in revelation 20:4 are in Jerusalem in the land of Israel. That is where they are surrounded by Gog and all his bands and when fire comes down out of heaven and devours Gog upon the mountains of Israel.
  7. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    He will come back and gather his elect unto himself where he will be. I think scripture says he is coming to the Mt of olives in Jerusalem.
  8. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    According to John,he saw souls on earth when Gog comes and surrounds them and fire comes down from heaven are devours Gog.
  9. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. Your the only wanting to change the text.I like it as it is.In fact ,I'm the one who keeps quoting it.
  10. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Unto the coming of the Lord. It doesn't say anything about you ascending to heaven.
  11. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    He said no one has gone into heaven except for him.that came from heaven. He didn't say anything about a point. John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
  12. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Is it like abels blood that cries out? Genesis 4:10 The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.
  13. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    I know of one who came from heaven and that is the only one who ascended to heaven John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. I will post the witnesses that saw him ascend into heaven for you Acts 1 9 And when he had spoken these things...
  14. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    His word has never changed. John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
  15. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    This is very self explanatory. John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
  16. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Sounds like they are under something.Not above it. Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and...
  17. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    How about I quote him John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. Sounds very straight forward .
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    The only one who has ascended to heaven is he that came from heaven.Who are you saying come from heaven,? John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
  19. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Who else do you know came from heaven? John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
  20. tailgator

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    I don't need to differentiate anything.The only one who has ascended into heaven is he that came from heaven. Can you name some of these people other than Christ who you say came from heaven? John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.