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Ducky's post is excellent. Pastor Rob Bell's book trying to sell the idea that there is no hell has to absolutely disregard Matt 25:46.

-- Funny, I don't remember making generalizations of Catholics, as you seem to make generalizations. Of course there are God-loving Catholics. I am dear friends with many and even have family members who fit into that category. I was a Catholic for decades. But that doesn't alter the...

And don't be disappointed if I am not surprised that you missed the point entirely.

When we have a prayer for healing that appears to be unanswered we need to consider that God is not our genie in a bottle or our Santa Claus. We cannot search God's thoughts ("your thoughts are not My thoughts and your ways are not My ways.") God has His own reasons for delaying healing or not...

-- Butch, if you have to ask that question...

-- No. I am saying you would have been 'constructive' if you would have provided substance instead of a drive-by generalization . .

So what you are saying is that you really had nothing particularly constructive to add to the conversation. Because throwing in "There's a difference between coming to Christ and coming to a religion that uses the name of Christ..." after someone makes a point, and then saying it has nothing...

All I can say Joshua is that there are some very learned scholars who have committed their entire lives to God and His word....and some come down on the side supporting the Rapture and some on the side that state it is wrong. And the difficult thing is, both sides provide scripture to support...

-- I agree completely. It was tragic the way the Catholic church used their convert-by-force methods across Mexico, Central America, and South America.

-- There is no scripture that supports purgatory. The justification is equal to being told that if you look at the clouds, close one eye, squint hard with the other, and use the imagination God has given you, ta-dah, the cloud is a pony. Likewise using 'tradition' to support the idea of...

-- Again, unfortunately there is no scripture that supports the concept of 'purgatory.' And using 'tradition' to support an idea without scripture to support it as well is worthless. The practice of Baal worship where their children were sacrificed was a 'tradition' for that belief. Just...

-- Unfortunately, hell is full of people who had very strong friendships with Christians, but those Christians never told them that what they were doing was a sin that would eventually lead to hell if they didn't turn away from it. The Christian didn't want to appear that they were judging so...

-- An opinion supported by zero facts. Translation: An unsupported accusation. I choose to "turn the other cheek." ;)

Makes me think of Jimmy Swaggert. He was involved regulary with a prostitute. Denied it. Investigation showed he lied. He gave a tearful apology and stepped away from the pulpit. Very quickly he felt he was ready to come back. The leaders of the denomination he was affiliated with said...

-- Except that, unlike Purgatory, there is at least some scripture to support the idea.

I have moved from laughing at your intentional obfuscations to actually worrying about your mental health, rjp. Trying to tie in the death of a close friend as a way to intentionally lie about what I say we are called to do, and at the same time calling God's scripture "the same tired line"...

And pray for our leaders: exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men; for kings and all that are in high place; that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and gravity." - 1 Tim. 2:1-2

With your last post being the latest example, Yes I am saying you are a fanatic. Example: "My undivided allegiance is to Christ, not the government of the united States or any country. Allegiance demands support in every way. That's where I draw the line. That's where we differ." ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^...

Amazing. Jesus suffered torture and died a horrible, agonizing death on the cross.... .....just to prevent people from suffering the fate of being instantly burned up and suffering no further? Uh-huh.

Who is bragging? How is being realistic about the government and choosing to focus on more important things rather than money, being fiscally irresponsible? -- Aspen -- How can you - with a straight face - say you are focusing on things "rather than money" while at the same time criticizing...