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  1. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    I agree it is not a name (although others on this forum would have me to believe there is such a name as "JEHOVAH Immanuel"). However, simply because it is two words does not mean it is a statement "that God is really to be born of men". That is reading your own definition into the words. A...
  2. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    The Father and the Son did not send the "Holy Ghost" in that verse. The Father sent someone, but it is not clear who. "Me" can refer to Isaiah or Yeshua. Even if it refers to Yeshua, it is Father YHWH that sends Yeshua through the power of His Holy Spirit. These verses are not related to Isaiah...
  3. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Yes, it refers to one person since there is only one true God (Yeshua's Father).
  4. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Wow! What a stretch! This is by far your most absurd statements yet and your worst case of reading into the text whatever you want. And if anyone on this forum agrees with your interpretation of those four verses above, they should be ashamed of themselves as should you.
  5. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    A fine example of verbal gymnastics. So tell me, how can the Son be eternal if the very word "Son" implies a beginning from one's Father?
  6. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    What doctrine do you adhere to? Elsewhere you wrote; "The Holy Ghost is through scripture identified as a person/being, as Deity, neither the person/being of the Father, nor the Son." That is exactly what the trinity doctrine states. Yes, and Solomon assembled all the elders unto another...
  7. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Please explain why the KJV always uses "Spirit" when the word "pneuma" stands alone, but uses "Ghost" when it is used with "hagios" ("Holy"). I believe it is because they want people to believe the "Holy Ghost" is a person, for that is what a ghost is, the disembodied soul of a person. Explain...
  8. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    I will not reply to posts that bombard me with Scripture, especially since I already refuted half of them. However, I will address John 1:15, 30. John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before...
  9. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Here is another example of you reading your beliefs into the text. The speaker is Yeshua's Father (YHWH), not Yeshua. Who is YHWH? Psalm 2:7 says YHWH is Yeshua's Father. Acts 3:13 says the speaker of Exodus 3:14-15 "glorified His Son Yeshua". All you are doing is ASSUMING the Son is speaking in...
  10. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    I showed you that the Hebrew does not read "Immanuel", but only "imanu" meaning "with". Any Israelite in the wilderness could say, "Moses imanu" meaning "Moses is with us", but that does not make him "Moses Immanuel". You make all sorts of mistakes like this because you read your beliefs into...
  11. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    So what version of the trinity do you accept? I also agree the Son is worthy of worship, but not as the "only true God". That kind of worship can ONLY be directed to Yeshua's Father, Almighty YHWH, our Creator and the only true God (John 17:3). YHWH always gives His spirit, and then it is...
  12. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    John 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. John the Baptist was "sent from God". Does that mean he preexisted as a living being with God in heaven until God finally sent him into the world? No. Hebrews 1:1-9 does not declare the Son's deity in the Hebrew or Greek. 1 ¶...
  13. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    Post#248 These verses refer to YHWH, not "JEHOVAH Immmanuel" and not Yeshua. Correct. Yeshua is younger having literally come into existence at his conception in Miriam's womb. First, "ghost" is another error in the supposedly inerrant KJV. A ghost is a "disembodied soul" or "an apparition of...
  14. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    It is only nonsensical to those who are caught up in that belief. There are many people who believe the Father is the Son and vice versa. The entire Oneness movement is founded upon that belief. The reading of the earliest and best manuscripts of 1 Timothy 3:16 is not “God” but rather “he...
  15. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    I refuted this earlier. He is all that (except "Alpha and Omega"), but he is NOT the great "I AM" of Exodus 3:14. Simply using the words "I am" does not make one the great "I AM". If that were so, the blind man in John 9:9 would be the great "I AM" for he said, "Ego eimi". Where are we taught...
  16. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    The glory Yeshua had was in YHWH's plan of salvation as the "Lamb slain". He was asking the Father to bring it to pass so he could receive that glory. The verse refers to wisdom who is personified as a woman. She is talking throughout. You are reading the Son into the text. This verse does not...
  17. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    People tread on holy ground when they say the Son is God, or the Father, or YHWH, or the I AM, etc. It is all idolatry. I discuss this subject in the hope of stopping people from trampling holy ground.
  18. gadar perets

    The Problem With The Trinity

    You are reading the Son into the text as did the translator. The logos was not a living being that was a separate person from the Father. It was the Father's words/thoughts/plans etc. Verse 3 uses "him" because the translator put his trinitarian bias into the text. Major versions that preceded...
  19. gadar perets

    KJV Is Not Fully Translated From the Greek IMO

    I agree with everything you wrote, but are you saying all preachers that accept tithes are thieves? Some of them honestly believe tithing is for today, "but not according to the letter".