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I hear what you are saying: Any person who hurt in a car wreck, a fall off a ladder, or having cancer that is not completely healed by God when they ask....well that's just because of their lack of faith. There is no other excuse. It is all their fault. You have made your point.

I hear ya. According to you, every soldier that fires a weapon is killing an innocent person. For the third time, good luck with that.

-- No, I hear you. Every time a soldier uses his weapon in the military, he is "killing the innocent, including babies." You made your point. I can't argue with someone who isn't interested in the truth so, as I said, good luck to you.

-- Yes, and your implication is that every single person who seeks healing from Jesus for an injury or illness but is not healed must be short on faith. That includes the born-again, spirit-filled pastor who I have witnessed do healings in Jesus name who then broke his left arm playing...

And so those that are currently suffering from an illness or an injury who have have sought healing from God but aren't immediately healed are poor Christians who need work on their faith. No, I get what you're saying.

I think you have made your point, Ducky. Anyone who joins the military is automatically a baby killer. Good luck with that.

[/size] -- Your multiple implications are that that is the stated goal and accepted practice of the military. You are either ignorant or narrow. Only you know which. -- Are you going on record that the US Military's practice is to intentionally kill innocent people? -- Probably...

So you're confirming that if a Christian is ever sick or injured and not healed, it is their own fault. Got it. Thanks.

[/size] -- Having spend 10 years in the military, including military operations in the first Gulf War, I am fairly certain I can say from a position of authority that you are absolutely full of beans. You forget the Special Forces soldiers whose hiding place in Iraq that was discovered by...

-- Ummmm....no. I love a good unsubstaniated conspiracy as much as the next guy, but... -- Your information, either intentionally or accidentally, is flat out wrong. First off, Mr. Obama never said he would get us out of Afghanistan. He stated that Afghanistan was the only "just conflict"...

[/size] -- Actually, what is lame is that you label everyone serving in the military as someone who would willfully kill babies in order to save their own lives. A blanket accusation such as this is below any decent person. You must be a very gifted man to feel you can stand in judgement of...

"Can't stand that shiz... I could imagine the Phaisees were pulling that shiz on Jesus," - Robbie -- "Shiz?" Is this a California thing or do you just want to use a swear word without using a swear word? .

-- You were asked if you would get medical help or wait for God's healing if you broke your leg. Simple question you chose to work around. Your implication appears to be that if someone is a Christian - truly a Christian - that something like that would never happen to them, and that if it...

-- That's why your words ring hollow. I HAVE gone through this entire thread and there is NO ONE here "defending killing innocent people to save their own hides." No one. You made the claim and then refuse to support it. Telling....very telling. -- I think that statement speaks volumes...

It is cermonial and "in remembrance." There should be no limitations between churches. At my church it welcomes all people, members and non-members alike to participate. As a former Catholic I do realize what they believe, but I would just ask them, "How many times does Jesus' body and blood...

"Guess you haven't been reading all those here defending killing innocent people to save their own hides. What is sad is the many who value their lives more than salvation." - Ducky -- Still waiting for you to provide evidence of even one person advocating the killing of innocent people to save...

So what Ducky appears to be saying is that if he was hit by a car and his leg was shattered, he would send the paramedics and ambulance away because God will take care of him. Uh huh.

"I think that 'intervention' is a way of hiding American hypocrisy in forcing those weaker than us to kowtow to the dictates of our military and corporate leaders in the name of liberty and democracy (something that we no longer have ourselves)." - rjp -- So what you are saying is that Mr...

"Guess you haven't been reading all those here defending killing innocent people to save their own hides. What is sad is the many who value their lives more than salvation." - Ducky -- Stopping someone who enters your home illegally with an ax bent on rape and murder is hardly "killing...

Poor Ducky. No interest in the truth. Only scoring points. Good luck to you.