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It is a sin to justify the crimes against humanity we see there now. Whoever the 'we' are that support that have no place in representing Scripture or Jesus.

The crimes against humanity we see from Israel now clearly show us that they are not of God in what they do. Bombing a hospital killing hundreds should make anyone who tried to justify them hang their heads in shame.

Rather than go back and check - if something was done before 1948 you are posting it here...why?

Once they get saved in the end. Not now.

Let's look at it then Here are some of the things Mat 24 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation...

In your head, yes. Out here in the real world your explanation is weak. I understand that that was not the greatest tribulation in the world actually. Jesus made it clear that in the end time the greatest time of trouble, unlike any other time would happen. Strike 2 for oracle.

We are supposed to know what a crub is?

Nothing changes your vague posts to transform them into God's spirit talking while other posters are wrong. What you need to do is defend a point with Scripture and we'll see how it fares/ So far not well at all. Your idea God won't give Israel the promised land one day on earth, for example.

Not in any way is that remotely true. Should all believers in Egypt now flee to the desert, taking the jewelry of the Egyptians and put blood on their door posts? Pointing at something God ordered His believing people to do in the far past does not give people now the right to do the same. That...

So that gives Israel the right to....?

So we were supposed to wait for you so that all other interpretations could be dismissed as false? Why would anyone? Yet things are discussed by believers. The trick is to have a strong bible case and be able to convey it in posts. No, of course not. But when one person claims some sort of...

You say things that are not your opinion? I see. So you among all posters here you think you are piping all things directly from the Almighty as opposed to other Christians. So clear it up. Pipe something clear in here.

So we are not mind readers here. What land exactly where is it that you think someone (who exactly?) gets?

OK so let's register this as your actual opinion? Says...who? Prophesy tells us there is oodles of things He still does with them.

But you don't think land means land right?

So basically it is your opinion (whatever you want to call it) that preachers like that who are wrong on one point are in apostasy. You were wrong on the point that God will not bring Jews back to the land when they are saved.

Ezekiel 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord

I see, so the preachers I cited in your opinion are in apostasy. Since they are all good on abortion and Pre Trib Rapture and other things I never viewed it that way. I considered that they were wrong on one point.

It may not be the communication that is the issue

Yes there is He promises to restore them to that land and destroy their enemies.