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    Does death come before the mark of the beast?

    Shalom, BlackManINC and rockytopva. No, indeed! In fact, the passage does NOT say that everyone on earth will be given the “do or die” alternative. It will probably only extend to the beast’s kingdom. While that may be quite large, it will NOT be all-encompassing!
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    From what region does the beast ascend out of the pit?

    Shalom, BlackManINC. No. Don’t put words in my mouth, please. What I am saying is that Yeshua` was talking to Jews in the state of Israel during the first century. It would only be natural that He FIRST warn them of the impending disaster that was a mere 40 years away, before going into events...
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    How close is the Seven Year Tribulation?

    Shalom, toknowthetruth. I’ve used the analogy of a puzzle before, as well. One thing you’ve forgotten: Be sure that you have all the puzzle pieces identified! I believe that it’s a doable challenge, but there’s nothing worse than having MOST of the pieces and having pieces MISSING, especially...
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    Outline of Revelation

    Shalom, toknowthetruth. Well, I know that’s how you see it; you’ve already said as much. Let’s ask some basic questions: Why do you think that the sun shall be darkened at the Second Coming? Why do you think the islands are going to flee away at the end of the Millennium? In chapter 7, I’m not...
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    From what region does the beast ascend out of the pit?

    Shalom, BlackmanINC. Tell me this: Why in this day and age, with all of our technology and warfare devices, would Yeshua` instruct His students to “flee to the mountains?" Why would He tell them not to come down from their rooftops? Why would He instruct them NOT to take anything with them out...
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    How close is the Seven Year Tribulation?

    Shalom, toknowthetruth. Take your time and study it out. I might also suggest giving these three words, “abomination,” “desolation,” and “tribulation,” simpler and more common synonyms as you read the text. For instance, an “abomination” is a “disgusting thing.” A “desolation” is an “emptying,”...
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    Outline of Revelation

    Shalom, toknowthetruth. Sorry, but you have an unexpected link that tells us that the seven trumpet judgments - the seven shofars - occur AFTER the sixth seal. From the opening of the sixth seal through the fifth trumpet judgment, we have the description of a meteor shower, indeed, a meteorITE...
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    How close is the Seven Year Tribulation?

    Shabbat shalom, toknowthetruth. Nor would it be a good idea to allow other passages that SEEM to be saying similar things just because they use a few similar words to dictate what prophetic passages go together. The three phrases in Daniel that SEEM to be talking about the same thing are NOT...
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    How close is the Seven Year Tribulation?

    Shabbat shalom, ATP. Well, perhaps “evolve” is not the best of words to use, but I think I understand where “toknowthetruth” is going with this. Languages DO change as people and their cultures change. He wasn’t talking about Yeshua` changing or God’s Word changing. Frankly, I would highly...
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    How close is the Seven Year Tribulation?

    Shabbat shalom, gentlemen. I should probably add something else. Since it was the Messiah who made them desolate, AFTER He had been with them for 3.5 years (the length of His “ministry” or His offer of the Kingdom to the Jews), it was HE who put the “gap” in the 70 Sevens (Weeks) of years. And...
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    The Heavenly Sanctuary - How it Affects Earth.

    Shabbat shalom, ATP. Of course! The nations of the earth, all headed by believers who have been made rulers "over many cities," will still be extant and will be tributary, vassal, and subordinate to the Kingdom of God, represented by the King of Israel, the Anointed One, Yeshua`, the Son of...
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    How close is the Seven Year Tribulation?

    Shabbat shalom, gentlemen. Sorry, but the only way to understand something written in a language is to know that language. And, I wouldn’t leave your ability to know a language in the hands of an interpreter or a commentator of whom you know nothing. “Let GOD be true and EVERY man a liar!” -...
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    The Heavenly Sanctuary - How it Affects Earth.

    Shabbat shalom, ATP. Not “on” the New Earth but “FOR” the New Earth. The destruction of the earth by Fire is NOT a universal thing, although it will be a GLOBAL thing. Just as the Creation account of Genesis 1 and 2 was about the biosphere of THIS planet, so the Flood and its aftermath were...
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    The Heavenly Sanctuary - How it Affects Earth.

    Shalom, siblings! I think it would be time better spent to understand the meaning of the word “heaven.” If you think it is something other than what we can see, you’re sadly mistaken. The Greek word “ouranos” simply means the “sky.” It’s where the birds fly (Revelation 19:17); it’s from whence...
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    From what region does the beast ascend out of the pit?

    Shalom, BlackManINC. What I said was simple enough. I wasn’t telling you you had to learn Hebrew (although I think it WOULD help). I was telling you that the text of Daniel 9:27 doesn’t support the “Antichrist” theory. Thus, HE is not the One who strengthens the covenant; HE is not the One who...
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    From what region does the beast ascend out of the pit?

    Shalom, BlackManINC. The Bible does NOT “quite plainly” say that the “Antichrist will make a covenant with many!” That is a POOR interpretation of Daniel 9:27! Look closely at the verse! Daniel 9:24-27 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the...
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    The Blood moons the rapture and the end times?

    Shalom, everyone. You people really are impossible, you know that? The Greek word “thlipsis” simply means a “pressure” as in a “tight spot.” a “thlipsis megalee” is a "HUGE pressure.” That’s all it means! PLEASE get out of your theological tunnel vision and see the reality of what Yeshua` is...
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    The Blood moons the rapture and the end times?

    Shalom, ATP. “Incorrect?” Really? You sound like a old Star Trek computer! Must I prove it to you? NT:2346 thliboo (thlee'-bo); akin to the base of NT:5147; to crowd (literally or figuratively): KJV - afflict, narrow, throng, suffer tribulation, trouble. NT:2347 thlipsis (thlip'-sis); from...
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    The Blood moons the rapture and the end times?

    Shabbat shalom, ATP. Actually, the Bible speaks of neither a "7-year tribulation period" nor a "3.5-year great tribulation period.” Again, that is the RHETORIC that proponents of these positions have used, and that rhetoric is strictly the position-speak of their theology (specifically, their...
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    The Thousand years

    Shabbat shalom, Rocky Wiley. Just a couple of things: First, the word “thousand” in Greek (chilios, neuter plural chilia) means a “thousand.” It doesn’t mean “999” or “1001.” The fact that the phrase “[ta] chilia etee,” meaning “a [the] thousand years” was used SIX TIMES in as many verses in...