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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    No! I try to distance myself from all forms of Preterism. My view is that prophecy has dual fulfillment with the main focus being the Chruch that Christ came to this world with. Preterits seem to have their mind fixed mostly on Jerusalem of Old whether they be partial or full. Grace and...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    First 'end of the age' and 'end of days' is saying the same thing, age is days. If you've used Scripture to prove Mt 24:3 somehow proves your opinion that Satan was not bound through the first advent of Christ, I missed it! It can be proven from Rev 20 that the thousand years that is when...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Please explain how you think Mt 24:3 helps you to arrive at this opinion??? Your opinions are not persuasive unless you can prove from Scripture what you allege. How for instance can you prove from Scripture there shall be a thousand more years of time given this earth when Satan is bound in...
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    The Didache on the coming of the world-deceiver: What 1st and 2nd century saints were taught

    The Messiah was cut off by His crucifixion. The people of the prince that should come is the people of Christ, the Jews are the people that caused the destruction of the city and sanctuary and brought the complete end through a flood that is the Roman Army. That was the final end of the Old...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    I agree that Satan has never been more powerful than God! He is allowed to do only what God permits, and from the fall God allows mankind who have all submitted to him to do according to his (Satan's) will. We desired to hear the voice of evil in the beginning, so his is the only voice we hear...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    All of Israel and anyone with knowledge of the Jewish Law and the Prophets knew of the coming of a Messiah who would save Israel. But they only knew of Him as a coming Messiah, they could not know the name of Jesus before He literally came and they called Him by that name. The prophets of Old...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    I really don't understand the mind that believes Christ came in 70 AD to judge Israel of Old. They use the writings found in the prophets of old and say see how they speak as the LORD coming in clouds etc. and His wrath was poured out on them. Where in those writings do the prophets speak of...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Eternal life through the Messiah who was to come was not limited to Jews only. Some Gentiles were eternally saved before the advent of Christ. The problem was to be saved of Old Gentiles had to convert to Judaism and obey the laws and commandments of God. Since Israel hoarded the oracles of...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Yes, I agree, which is why I am not the typical Amil. I'm not so married to any doctrine that I cannot change when through my study of Scripture I've come to understand some things differently than I once did. You're forgetting there are only some who are ordained to eternal who shall believe...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    No, Christ did not return in 70 AD. He will not return before the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete, and the seventh trumpet sounds that time shall be no longer. Sin has not ended, but the power of sin that held us in fear of the power of death has ended for all who are born again.
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    David, why would you say the first advent binding Satan is permanent and can't be reversed? His binding is only to last as long as this time symbolized a thousand years continues. Rev 20 clearly shows us that when this symbolic time has expired Satan will no longer be bound, and will be able...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    I've come to similar belief. IMO the only way to correctly understand the words Christ spoke from the Mt of Olives is to interpret His words as dual prophecy for both the nation of Israel in unbelief as well as prophecy directed to Christ's disciples (Church) of things that shall come as...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    What do the locusts symbolize? Are they in a literal pit? Why when they are freed from the pit are they able to torment only those who do not have the seal of God in their foreheads (unbelievers)? And who is the king over them whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Christians were scattered abroad preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God long before 70 AD. This was after the first advent of Christ. Saul, who became the Apostle to the Gentiles caused many of them to spread into other nations. It was the cross of Christ that caused persecution and...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Where is the pit that he is bound in David? When Christ was born the war that took place in heaven ejected Satan from heaven and cast him to the earth where he is now bound as king of the bottomless pit. What is the bottomless pit if it is not bound to be ruler over the dead? Satan is bound...
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    The lake of fire is not a place where the unrepentant might become penitent and on bended knee confess Jesus Christ as their Lord. It is called the "Second Death" for a reason. Those cast into the lake of fire experience eternal death, or death that is unending. Unrepentant sinners have...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    I think the reason so many deny that Satan was bound by the advent of Christ is because they don't understand what being bound that "he should no longer deceive the nations" means. We must understand how his binding is not literal, but symbolic and it is specific in purpose. Satan is not bound...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    But what Satan no longer has the power to do is to deceive the nations into believing the only fate for humanity is DEATH! With the advent of Christ coming to earth, Satan only has power to hold in bondage to fear of death those who remain in unbelief. Satan's power to deceive has most...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Interesting you moved in this direction. I'm Amil that moved from Premil, but as I learned more through my study of Scripture I now understand how partial preterism is not far from what I have come to believe is written in the Olivet Discourse. While I would not label myself full preterit or...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    The answer lies in the question of how Satan was able to deceive the nations prior to his being bound. It was not as so many believe to rid the world of evil. It was so the Kingdom of God could be built. Before Christ's coming Satan had power to hold the nations who had never heard of Christ...