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People make their choices at any given time VJ. Even Jesus was unable to bring them around.....because of their choices.....not because of the lack of evidence.

You engage double speak, David!

got it!

It is not uncommon for the scriptures to apply literally and figuratively. The scriptures use a physical reality to highlight a spiritual reality. Jesus' parables are cases in point. Those who have seen Jesus, get it. Those who haven't and argue it, highlight their ignorance to their shame.

Guessing by the amount of times you post on the ill health of you or your family MD (both emotional and physical), the environment you live in is playing a major role. How can God's blessings of good health come about while you maintain living in a polluted environment?

HOW we see God determines our conclusions Ernie. Jesus came for the very purpose of revealing God's character so that being snowed by the devil (who misrepresents God's character) is not necessary. How do we see Jesus? Is he as one who will torture people indefinitely if they reject him? Is he...

So why is it that you debate otherwise even while quoting scripture as if what you practice in debate is somehow justified by the scripture you quote?

Are you really interested in Truth or do you only want to justify what you think you understand?

Have you completed the 'how to' list yet.....and the condescension, Behold?

Was Christ at any time, under the dominion of death, did He die? If so, how did he overcome His own death? John 10:17-18 'The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it...

What do you think was God`s Purpose in making - the Nations, Israel and the Body of Christ? Perhaps he needed someone to chop down all the trees? :doldrums:

Why do you want an answer with scripture AJ? It doesn't appear to make any difference to your perspective.

Seeing what you want to see only makes it 'obvious' to you Scott

If you hold these things you have quoted above to heart David, why is it you choose Sunday as the day you revere while doing battle against the 7th day Sabbath?

Hello Finn....I think you know the path to tread.

Hello Finn....I think you know the path to tread.

hmmmm, more revelations!

'carry on', 'hell bent'...hmmmmm, revealing!

Understanding the language (what is actually being communicated) is the first cab off the rank.....it solves the problem of a thousand unnecessary words including questions.

'Hallowed be your Name' = May your Character be admired. It was for the purpose of revealing God's name (his character) that Jesus sojourned among us. It was so that we as people do not need to live in fear or coercion. 'If I be lifted up I will draw all men to myself' Jesus said. Many will be...