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    What is "OSAS"?

    I've learned only a fool follows the doctrine of man. So let me turn the question on you, from whom does your understanding of Scripture come from? What man/denomination has taught you? Mt 18:17 is confirmation that within the Church on earth there are both believers and unbelievers growing...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    The Bible prophesy came "not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake (as they were) moved by the Holy Ghost." Why would I trust the apocryphal books as belonging to Old Testament canon without proof they were written by men of old under the inspiration of God, moved by the...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    If by water you mean Holy Spirit baptism that comes by hearing the Gospel that is the living water of life. Baptism through physical water is an ordinance that Christ said should come after a man/woman has been taught/discipled. So, all who profess faith in Christ (a disciple) are called to...
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    What is "OSAS"?

    He was talking about the Church that consists only of those who have been born again of the Spirit of Christ. How could He be talking about the Church that exists on this earth? The Church as She is in this world is not pure, but polluted with tares, wolves in sheep's clothing, liars...
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    The Order of Salvation

    I think an example of laws Jesus was not pleased with came by Moses because of the hardness of their hearts. Through this law a bill of divorce was written for whatever excuse served them. But from the beginning God said that when two were joined together in marriage they became one flesh, and...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Were they awaiting a resurrection, or a home in heaven? Hebrews tells us these Old Covenant faithful saints patiently waited, looking for a heavenly dwelling place. Perhaps these saints of Old believed that heaven would be a transitional place, a place where the spiritual body of believers...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    The book of Enoch was removed from the Bible because it was considered to be apocryphal, or non-canonical1. The book was not included in the Biblical canon due to the belief that Enoch himself didn’t author most of the book and that it wasn’t divinely inspired by God2. There is also a lack of...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    Enoch could not have ascended up to heaven before Christ defeated death by His cross and resurrection. Enoch did not [see] death, in the same way no faithful saint shall. John 8:51 (KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. To not see death...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That could certainly be the proper understanding of the passage. But I tend to look at being born again as a strictly spiritual phenomenon that is uniquely distinct from physical birth. So, I tend to think being born of water and the Spirit is a supernatural rather than a natural event. It...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    My thinking exactly! Christ cannot be saying we have to be physically alive through natural birth to be born again of the Spirit, because as you've pointed out that is absurd!
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Don't forget vs 3 also. Man must be born again or they cannot see (know) the Kingdom of God. John 3:3 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. So man must be born again, and born of water and the...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    You were emphasizing 'gift' as opposed to 'gifts' arguing for that reason the verse is speaking of the Holy Spirit Himself as the gift, because otherwise it would have been written 'gifts'. My contention is that it is written 'gift' and not 'gifts' because it was specifically speaking of the...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    Not if the gift in mind was the same gift of tongues that had been evidenced already.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    This is a good example of why the Olivet Discourse must be interpreted as dual fulfillment. First for the Jews of the Old Covenant nation, lastly for all the nations of the world of the New Covenant Israel of God. Daniel's prophesy has dual fulfillment, because the faithful saints of Old...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    This is very discouraging for me to hear. When we are shown proof from Scripture that the doctrine we cling to is not biblically true, why do some react in this manner? Why don't you try to prove from Scripture how I am "far off on this"? If you cannot prove this from the Bible, then why do...
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    Why is the need to study the bible for yourself; important?

    Studying the Bible consists of more than reading and obeying what it says. Study requires diligently searching for verses and passages that may confirm or dispute what we believe the verse or passage means. It is only though studying the Bible as a cohesive whole that we are able to understand...
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    Why is the need to study the bible for yourself; important?

    2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    There was communication between God and Adam & Eve after they committed sin and brought death to creation when they disobeyed God. But communication means the ability to hear spoken words, and that is not the same as having the ability to commune with God. They could no longer commune, which is...
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    The blood of an animal had to be sacrificed to cover their nakedness. This is a symbolic depiction of Christ giving His blood to make atonement for sin. Genesis 3:21-24 (KJV) Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. And the LORD God said...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Can there ever be unity found in a people called the Church on this earth? The Church now is filled with both wheat and tares, that is believers and unbelievers alike. The tares will be with the wheat until they are separated out of the body of believers when the Lord returns. What does...