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And you ignore the rest of the story Tallman It was the cloven Tongue and it was evidenced by the very fact that it was understood by all This is the very proof that it was of God ALL understood in their own language and the Greek goes further not only their own language but even down to the...

Let me add notice God says but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Not dont worry I will do it for you .... everyone has free will and must doeth it of his choice ... many are called but few are chosen just you may have been called doesnt guantee you a thing ...why because...

You seem to be ignoring my post Saved57 ...... Which proves the point that most who are intent on following their own doctrine rather than Gods ..when proved wrong in Gods Word ingnore it. Or twist it.So they can hang on to their own false believes ... And still try to claim they are right the...

Yes true he does avenge his Elect but know one knows if they an Elect until they overcome to the End ... claiming just because you believe your of the Elect/over-comers is a lie ..... The whole world follows after the beast believing he is Christ ..until you get passed this point .You are not of...

I would be laughing at myself if I was the one claiming what scripture doesnt say is what we should accept as truth and say its Gods words:D

Hey savedbygrace If you are so right please explain the following to me do you remember Samson Jdg 13:24And the woman bare a son, and called his name Samson: and the child grew, and the LORD blessed him. Well lets look at Samson, should we. He was from the tribe of Dan who got into Idol worship...

LOL............... That is just about the most absurd statement I ever heard ....because a verse doesnt say something you can just decide it is a doctrine?? The verse doesnt say cockroaches have souls either therefore it must also be true ..... I think you should take Mike's suggestion in the...

What a twist of scripture this verse hasnt a thing to do with the Elect its Jesus talking with Sadducees and Pharisees who were of their father the devil ....They were the fake priests that king Herod put into power when he kicked all the true Levite priest out ....God created even the...

Yep I think we are pretty much on the same page Mike ...I sometimes think of Elect as the generals God may have given them the orders ... but without their troops to carry them through a general is nothing but a guy yelling orders at the wind. :)

I will add to Jordans post the Elect and over-comers are only different in this flesh age during the millenium they are the same they get the same reward ...that is to reign and rule with Christ, and they are not subject to the second death..... Anyone can become and overcomer to the End ...The...

There is no contradiction in Gen when it understood right ... as far as Jospeh there was no word for in-Laws so when read right it isnt a contradiction the only one you might have claim to is stalls and surley a number transcribed by a scribe about horses ....... does not equate to God making a...

There is no contrdiction in Gods Word if you think there is its you who is misunderstanding a thing ........... The Word was first ...I hate when people use this as an excuse ... All it means when a contradiction is found is one has missed something .... If people would stop assuming the fault...

The Word Many in Greek is: polys1) many, much, large It has one meaning above ..... Now everyone born flesh except one was a sinner ......... So Paul means everyone except one who was born flesh and was perfect (Christ) therefore many is used in the verse to denote that there was one exception...

very interesting thoughts here I will have to think and study on this .. ..Will get back to you on this ending of the time of Grace

Very interesting subject you have brought up here gervais I found this a good explanation: Strong’s Concordance defines telos as "the point aimed at, as a limit, i.e. (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state (termination.)"Suntelia is defined by the same source as "entire completion...