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    Are The elect saved before they believe the gospel ?

    savedbygrace57 Ditto you need not ask a bunch of questions until you are born again sir..You have rejected scripture for your own philosophy..I dont have time to keep answering your questions.. You have not answered any,but that's a good cop out.Not that you will answer,but hypothetically...
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    America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.

    Anyone suggesting that Christianity had little influence on America is not familiar with history. Thirty-two percent of the Founding Fathers quotes – directly or indirectly – came from the Bible. The Bible was quoted four times more frequently than any other source. Most states required of their...
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    Are The elect saved before they believe the gospel ?

    savedbygrace57 Before I show you anymore scripture I must percieve you have been born again sir, you can show a blind man as much light as possible but until he has his eyes opened by christ, he cannot see... you need no more scripture, you need to be born again and thats the truth.. What is...
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    The Elect

    savedbygrace57We are on two different levels,as I can see that you are not familar with the world that was,meaning the age before this one.The whole plan of God concerning this age is all about choice,not His but ours.If you don't understand the beginning,you won't understand the end,so I will...
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    1000 Years

    Unorthodox Christian Friday Sunset to Saturday Sunset=Duration of SabbathHow to keep the Sabbath, Observing Scripture, Praising the Lord, Resting from Labor, Doing Good. Are we not supposed to do that every day?And what about those of us who have jobs that we work on the sabbath?Again as Kriss...
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    The Elect

    savedbygrace57 What you just posted here makes absolutely no sense at all Let me see if I can say it a little,with a questionIf God already knows all who will be saved,what choice do we have?Had satan not rebelled we would not have been made flesh,the reason we were made flesh was so that we...
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    The Elect

    savedbygrace57 Sorry for you...no matter what you say God chooses who is saved , and not the other way around, you are promoting humanism... This will seem somewhat controversial to some,but I will post it anywayIf God choses all who will be saved that what mean that He already knows who will...
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    1000 Years

    Daniel IsraelHello to youLet me ask you a question,how does one keep the Sabbath?
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    The Elect

    savedbygrace57 16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. That contradicts your philosophy sir... Sorry but you are...
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    Speaking In Tongues

    Dunamite One thing is true. Do not ascribe what comes from God to evil spirits. You do this at your peril. I certainly would tread very carefully here and be very certain of myself before I posted such comments. Thanks for your concern,but according to the Word,if what people speak today is the...
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    Speaking In Tongues

    setfree So the tongues speaking in Corinthians is different than the day of Pentecost? Yes it was different"Cloven tongues" are many different languages, and the time it is spoken is when one filled with the Holy Spirit speaks. There will be no confusion to anyone as to what is said, for...
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    Are The elect saved before they believe the gospel ?

    preciousmessage Do we want to limit the grace of God? “The grace of God hath appeared, bringing salvation to ALL men.” Titus 2:11, R.V. “Choose you this day and who eat will serve.” Joshua 24:13. I think you are missing my point,all can receive salvation,but we are not talking about all men,we...
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    Speaking In Tongues

    setfree Who did the explaining? These were unbelievers listening to the disciples declaring the wonderful works of God. What was spoken did not need to be explained,for all who were present heard it in their own language,that was the evidence of the Holy Spirit.Let me also add that this will not...
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    Speaking In Tongues

    In every occurrence of "unknown tongue," in the New Testament, the word "unknown" is an added word (italicized in the KJV) by the translators to make the English readable. It is not in the Manuscripts! In the King James Bible you see some words in italics. These are words that they had...
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    How long is the GREAT TRIBULATION?

    1st half of the Tribulation: This is the first three and one half years (42 months) that the first beast is in power upon the earth. This time was not shortened by Christ in Mat 24:22.2nd half of the Tribulation: This is the second half of the original seven years Tribulation, Christ...
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    Are The elect saved before they believe the gospel ?

    BroDave Of course we are saved before we heard the gospel. Our names were written in the Lamb's Book of Life BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. That's good enough for me. All were not called
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    Are The elect saved before they believe the gospel ?

    That certain were chosen for 'certain' things is unmistakable in the Scriptures. Below is just a couple of Scriptures that definitely show that 'certain' were chosen (predestined) for certain things (fates). Jude 1:4-5 4 For there are certain men [not all men] crept in unawares, who were before...
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    The Elect

    J.M.So how old do you think the earth is,and where do you think we were before we were born?
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    The Elect

    J.M. What in the world are you talking about? Put down your Bullinger Bible and step away...hands where I can see'em...This is a perfect example of twisting, pick up a Bible without hyper-dispey notes in it. In Romans 9:11 we read that election is based on God's purpose and not on anything...
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    The Elect

    Thanks KrissAs I said in another post,for their own good, some are blinded to the truth