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  1. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    You and most Christians misunderstand that ONLY Adam & Eve were literally created by God. We, who are their descendants, were/are generated by their "seed". God Himself is not directly involved with the pro-creation of anyone of us. Man BECAME a living soul, and is NOT given "a soul". Although...
  2. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    Only that which is God, can create life. Angels can't create anything, especially life. The plurality of the word "us" and "our", is God the Father speaking to His Son (KJV Gen. 1:26), Who was brought forth from everlasting, before the world was. KJV Proverbs 8
  3. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    Interpretations made by assumption is no better than that which is proposed by another.
  4. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    ^ cont'd- So where am I going with all this about the birds and the animals, that Adam named BEFORE Eve was created? The birds and the animals were pro-creating IN AND OUTSIDE of the Garden, long before Eve was created out of Adam. There was death in the Garden, and outside of it already...
  5. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    Since A&E were created as adults. We have no idea what their age would have been while in the Garden. Therefore, how long they were in the garden, in their innocence, before they had partaken of the Tree of knowledge of G&E, we really don't know. One week, one year, ten years? All one can do is...
  6. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    Actually, it's a literal FACT. A&E were living souls, just like all air (oxygen) breathing animals (soul-nephesh-animal life), aka "the breath of life". KJV Gen. 2:7, 6:17, 7:22. The opportunity for eternal life/existence was only provided to A&E, through the Tree of Life. It is very apparent...
  7. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    Gen 2:15 - And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. Many do not understand that in the garden, natural death was already upon every living thing, from insects to A&E. The opportunity for eternal life was only made available to A&E. So then...
  8. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    Let's see now, A&E managed to sew up a few fig leaves, and put them on themselves. So it's not hard to assume that the clothes God made for them, they put on themselves.
  9. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    For all of your struggle to prove that God and/or angels literally put the clothes on A&E, you are unable to rescue the text from interpretation by assumption. No where in the text is there the personal pronouns of either "he, she, or they", that put clothes on A&E. Therefore the text, having...
  10. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    The local news report said: "The next door neighbor was so distraught over the fire, that destroyed their home and all their belongings, he clothed them all. Now, did that good neighbor provide the new clothing only, or did he literally put the clothing on them also.
  11. Earburner

    A Form of godliness

    So also "could" you: EB previously stated: "If angels can appear physically in human form, who says that Jesus, who dwelt within the Father's Glory of Himself, couldn't appear as an angel?";)
  12. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    I am suggesting that the verse is left open to interpretation by assumption. Yes, God did make clothes for them of animal skins for them to wear, but it doesn't literally say that HE Himself clothed them, or that anyone else clothed them. Your interpretation would [read]: Genesis 3:21 The Lord...
  13. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    A&E were not divine. They were created as living souls- (nephesh-animal life), being innocent with free will. They did not yet have the knowledge of evil OR GOOD, until they exercised their God given ability to choose. Without the saving God's Grace, through faith in Jesus, there is no form of...
  14. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    Before I get into "who drove A&E from the garden", let's go back a little to Gen. 3:7-12, and examine the conversation between Adam and God. It is loaded with our [assumptions of experiences]. [7] And the eyes of them both were opened [their new found self consciousness of being aware of...
  15. Earburner

    A Form of godliness

    The pharisaical Jews had a down fall, they also took every word of the scriptures as being literal. Hence they missed the day of their visitation of the Messiah.
  16. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    So it's true, you do see the garden of Eden as an "orchard" of literal fruit trees. OK, that's fine, but how were any of the supposed real fruit of the two trees able to impart "the knowledge of good and evil", or that of "eternal life"? My guidance on this, is that neither of the two trees of...
  17. Earburner

    Ministering Spirits ignored

    For the sake of repetition, I don't believe in the trinity doctrine. I adhere to an Amillennial- Binitarian view point, of which is indeed scriptural and spiritual, but contrary to most professing christians who are trinitarians, as well as those who view Jesus as having no pre-existence at...
  18. Earburner

    A Form of godliness

    Your answer denies scripture, and the testimony of Jesus' own words. Man became a living soul. He didn't receive a living soul, of which many falsely believe is eternal of itself.
  19. Earburner

    A Form of godliness

    He who was to be manifested in the world as "the Lamb OF God" was kept secret until the precise time of when God was going to send to us the "good news" aka the Gospel, who is Christ Himself. Prior to that, in the OT, Jesus was seen, but was incognito as being an angel, typically the Angel of...
  20. Earburner

    A Form of godliness

    Yes, I agree with that. The overall focus of his prayer was that God the Father, himself and that we may be one as they are. Back to the point I was making. Jesus revealed that he himself alone had a glorious existence with his Father BEFORE the world was created. John 17:5.....the glory which...