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in fact, I might add, it is a lie so convincing it appears as the truth.

Paul is specific in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 Strong delusion is directly connected to THE lie. It's not a general nebulous non-descript lie. It is primarily a specific lie.

.......but what is THE lie? THE lie must be able to to be identified otherwise how would you know it's a lie?

What do you think is THE lie? It must be quiet some lie if it causes strong delusion. Strong delusion! hmmmm, I can't think of a stronger term.....and does God really send this? Why would he do that?

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I see you are not open to engage or interested in anything more than you think you know. In that case I'll stay outside the door!

You don't know what you don't know Dan. To think/ believe what you know or HOW you understand is all there is to be known or HOW to understand, only does oneself a disservice. Jesus counsels us.... Luke 8:18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and...

What happens if I'm from a minority whose language has not been translated? What happens when the Mong Chinese can't read English....let alone the language of Mr King James? What happens if I'm deaf and blind in Central Africa who has never heard of Mr King James?

When Do You Pray? Is it like asking, do you have designated times when you talk to the one you love? ....or is it more along the lines of, what is the minimum amount of brownie points I can get away with? perhaps it's, 'my routine has been practised for ex amount of time, I'm sure God wont...

Doctrine doesn’t matter as much as love Love cannot be commanded; commanded in the sense of generated by ordering someone to do it/ have it. Love is the consequence of being drawn to something (either a person or an object)

The world has been “made right” in front of God. Could it be that those in the World who hear have had their understanding of God made right? Reflect on what happened after Adam and Eve sinned. 1.. They went into hiding 2.. They thought God (their friend) was the one to be feared ....yet he...

tell me what you think is freaky? ....and why it would be applied to those who think quietly?

You are not obliged to make enquiry from those who claim Jesus is a liar but you are obligated to enquire about your own process/ skills of drawing conclusions.....if discovering truth is of any importance to you.

Have it your way Scott. Vision has a different flavour.

...and you ole fella cannot differentiate between name calling and stating the obvious.

No doubt it hasn't occurred to you that you are in this category!

You are the master of hijack Scott. Your use of the scriptures to peddle your own 'fantasies' knows no bounds.

In both your replies #26 and #27 Dan, you draw conclusions without adequate information. What information is missing or inadequate you might ask? Yes, you might ask but so far you haven't. I have no interest in going into an explanation without an enquiry.......so, for your own knowledge, make...

That has got to be a projection if ever I heard one!

You preach your emphasis and insist it is THE paradigm by which scripture is to be interpreted and disseminated . .....even in the light of good news and hope God has intended for all people. Whether they believe that good news or not is not yours to determine let alone dish out your tunnel...