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Shalom, daq. Bro', you can't legitimately DO that! Quit putting passages of Scripture together that don't belong together based on the usage of a single word, like "third" or "mountain!" It's a NON SEQUITUR, "an inference or a conclusion that does not follow from the premises" or "a comment...

Shalom, Guestman. Yes, I know that Exodus 20 is literal and that it has no direct tie to Joel 2; I PLANNED it that way. I simply chose a literal passage at random to make my point. Again, who determines what is literal and what is figurative? See, not all prophetic passages are figurative...

Shalom, Guestman. Sorry, bro', but that's not even CLOSE to a good way to interpret the Bible! Do you realize just how SUBJECTIVE that approach to the Scriptures is?! What if someone who reasons like you do says that Exodus 20 is not to be taken literally?! Exodus 20:13-16 13 Thou shalt not...

Shalom, ladies and gentlemen. IF there is going to be a pretribulational rapture, then ALL who are believers will be slated to be raptured, because it is not UP TO US when we will be raptured. Therefore, IF there is a pretribulational rapture, ALL believers will be raptured. HOWEVER, if there...

Shalom, afaithfulone4u. There are three crucial things for you to understand about what you've said so far. First of all, the word most often translated as "caught up" is from the Greek word harpazoo (ending in an omega), and it's a verb meaning literally "I snatch away." It may not mean "up"...

Shalom, Arnie. Yep. HaSatan was that original serpent, once a lizard, still a reptile - a snake, his legs withered in God's curse after the Fall (Gen. 3:14-15; Rev. 12:9; and Rev. 20:2). "HaSatan," that is pronounced "hah-saw-TAWN," that we shorten to "Satan" and mispronounce as "SAY-tun,"...

Shalom, horsecamp. It makes more sense than you realize. Revelation 20:1-3 CAN INDEED be taken literally. Consider the following: Here is the Greek text (transliterated): 20:1 Kai eidon aggelon katabainonta ek tou ouranou echonta teen klein tees abussou kai halusin megaleen epi teen cheira...

Shalom, daq. Well, actually the word "erchontai" is simply the third person, plural form of the present tense of "erchomai." That means that just as "erchomai" can mean either "I come" or "I am coming" or "I go" or "I am going," so this word (with heemerai) means "days come" or "days are...

Shalom, daq. I'm going to take a slightly different approach, here. You're assumption is that Acts 2 has already stated these things occurred at that time (in the early first century A.D.) Thus, you believe that Acts 2 mentioning Joel 2:31-32, and consequently Revelation 6:12, fulfill these...

Shalom, Arnie. Sorry about the lengthy interchange between Daq and myself. He just needs to know that it's not "his way or the highway." There are other opinions JUST AS VALID AS HIS ARE, and in my opinion, MORE valid! I think more of your opinion and that of Guysmith and Eric because I feel...

Shalom, daq. Who gave you the right to take an analogy out of its context and apply it willy-nilly everywhere and anywhere you please?! Really? The stars of heaven represent the "Army of Heaven - The Tribes - The Saints"? So, is that what they mean here? Job 38:1-7 38 Then the Lord...

Shalom, daq. Who gave you the right to reject the obvious? Kokhaviym simply means "round objects"; that's all, and frankly it applied to ANYTHING that was seen in the sky, whether stars, asteroids, planets, or meteors! It's also possible that the LORD'S "sword" is a comet, since that is the...

Shabbat shalom, daq. Yes, bro', literal "shooting stars" or "falling stars" or "meteors" fall, and if they strike the earth, we call them "meteorites." And, since "heavens" (ouranoi or shaamayim) means "skies," yes, they fall from the skies. And, you've mistaken the Hebrew to read that the...

Shabbat shalom, daq. Man, reading through your posts is like hearing the "Most Holy Words" of the Yangs in "The Omega Glory" episode (second season) of the old Star Trek series! You read the Scriptures and read "Ee plebneesta norcolum for cum perfec tunum," and I feel like Kirk trying to wave...

Shalom, daq. Romans 14:4 4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. KJV Good grief, Charlie Brown! What are you, king of the grudge-holders?! For someone who claims ... OT:1851...

Shalom, daq. The difference is simple: Whether I brought up Mowshiya` or not is irrelevant since I don't have a problem with Yeshua` being a Mowshiya` (which is rather redundant, "Yeshua`" and "Mowshiya`" stemming from the same root). The problem is that you don't recognize that Yeshua` is also...

Ho hum. Okay, Shalom to you, my brother. Be at rest. I will always appreciate you and love you anyway. You need to understand, though, that there have ALWAYS been many messiahs, ever since Aharown was anointed to be the first Kohen haGadol, the first High Priest. The priests were anointed; the...

Shalom, daq. All I'll say is that you're putting words in my mouth and intents in my heart that aren't there. But, hey! You've got one WONDERFUL IMAGINATION!

Shalom, Purity. Last post. Of course, but God has already taught me much, and He's lead me down a path such that ALL of the things I've learned dove-tail together without any discrepancy whatsoever. And, it has become a unit of teaching to which I must ADD because I KNOW that what I've already...

Shalom, Enoch. Yes, I agree. He wearies me with his CONSTANT harangue and allegorical teaching and put-downs; he's angered me for the last time, though. I've enjoyed this forum, but I'm in the process of getting a book written and don't really have time for all the rebuttals necessary in trying...