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He sees the event according to the wisdom of men, aka church-ianity. 1 Corinthians 2:5. Armageddon is Gog and Magog, and ARE the same event, told using two different references.

Luke 11:13, Romans 8:9, Revelation 3:20.

No, KJV-Joel 3:14 says this:[14] Multitudes, multitudes IN the valley of decision: for the [terrible] day of the LORD is near [at any time] IN [during] the valley of decision [the age of Pentecost- God's Grace]. Matthew 24[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away...

God's judgment of Eternal Life was for to negate His judgment of eternal death through having faith in Jesus. The judgment in the valley of Jehoshaphat is John 3:18. God the Father came to Israel through the persons of John the Baptist, in the spirit (manner) of Elijah, and through Jesus, the...

Sorry, it appears that church-ianity got the best of you. I can't help you, "go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourself". Matthew 25:9

The "Two Anointed ones"* were both taken by force. John-beheaded and Jesus Crucified. * KJV Zechariah 4[12] And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil** out of themselves? [aka the Holy Spirit]. [13] And he...

I see it, but you really don't!! Are there not a remnant of Jews being converted to Christ out of every generation, since Pentecost? Pentecost IS Joel 3:14 BEING FULFILLED, simply known as "the valley of decision", aka this present Age of God's GRACE.....TO ALL. Try not to let "church-ianity"...

"Church-ianity".....we have a problem! The KJV states Matthew 11:14-15 this way: [12] And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven [both John and Jesus] suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. [13] For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John...

And here it is again also: Did not John the Baptist come in the spirit of Elijah, and before the great and terrible day of the Lord arrives? He most surely did. Ever since Pentecost, we have been in the valley of decision. In KJV Joel 3:14, are you able to discern how that terrible Day is...

In all the world of all generations, ONLY John the Baptist and Jesus are the "Two Anointed ones". Both were born with the Holy Spirit.

Let's look at how simple it really is. John 14[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; [17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he...

Cont'd You might want to examine the following as being very relative. It's an updated copy of one of the many of my comments on this topic, from the thread: "The Day of the Lord, wrong timing applied" Zechariah 14:8 has been fulfilled and still is being fulfilled to this day: "And it shall be...

Joel 3:14 BEGAN on the Day of Pentecost, as fulfilled in Acts 2:17-19. Joel 2[27] And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people [chosen through faith] shall never be ashamed. [28] And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will...

Of course my post sounds to be "sort of a mess" to you, that's because the mind of Christ within me is speaking to your "natural man/mind", which is full to the brim of preconceived thoughts of pharisaical "church-ianty", aka "the wisdom of men". We must always apply John 16:13 to our reading of...

Yes indeed, that is good! But the word was made flesh, and through His resurrection, by faith we are freely given His Holy Spirit, aka the Mind of Christ. Therefore, to have God's literal words, and not allow the mind of Christ within us to interpret His words is NO GOOD! Isaiah 55:8-9...

Since you used my post to respond to "phoneman", and then said: "Moses and Elijah were raised for this special work of strengthening Christ and to this day they await the resurrection", I suggest that you HEAR the words of Jesus, and not your own speculation of understanding. This thread is...

Because we have visible references of famous people who lived 500 years ago, maybe you know Who this guy is: However, because of the 2nd Commandment, the disciples had no "images", nor a "website" to compare to, of what they thought they saw during the Transfiguration of Jesus.

Incorrect on your first thought. Correct on your second thought. Therefore, the disciples did not see Moses and Elijah! They saw angels, as Jesus said they would, when they were allowed to see heaven briefly opened.

I must say that you have a lot of regurgitated speculation of denominational religious teaching going on. Let's be real here, none of the patriarchs and prophets were "brain surgeons" about how our conscious and subconscious minds worked. To them, they thought it was "a spirit" in man that...

BTW, you might gain a better understanding of Zechariah 14:8, which has been fulfilled and still is being fulfilled to this day And it shall be in that day [Pentecost], that living waters** shall go out FROM Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea...