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Hey Angelina, I numbered your quote to make it easier to respond. 1. Well, they are just words. But they are God's words. When God spoke, "Let there be light." He used...just words. But they were powerful words. 2. Yes, this makes my point. Jesus was upset with the Pharisees because...

ScottAU, I dont have time or space to address all your comments. I'll try to deal with the major points. It sounds to me like this is not an open discussion with you, but you are already so convinced that I might as well not even waste my time replying. However, for the benefit of others who...

Justin, All I can say is that words matter. We are writing matters of eternal importance for the public to read. If you cannot do it in a way that is clear and lucid, then you should refrain from speaking of matters that relate to knowing God or what constitutes the Word of God. My life...

I'd say this is an incredible leap. Are you really going to associate the doctrine of Penal Substitution and the teaching of early Reformers with evolution? This is just silly and I cant comment on such ridiculous associations. So your argument is that penal substitution negates forgiveness...

I think I have told you 100 times that Penal Substitution is not an excuse for continuing in evil behavior. You need to get your facts straight. Wesley believed so strongly in penal substitution and satisfaction that he doubted one could be a Christian without believing it. Yet he also...

I simply disagree that you are the source of Gods revelation. You realize this statement suggests that your voice is equal to the voice of Scripture right?

Angelina, I'm on my iPad so this will be brief. Thanks for your thoughts. I think you have a great many assumptions here that is hard to wade through in a short amount of time. Yes. I believe the Scriptures are inspired. This is precisely why I don't believe they have to be illuminated to...

ScottAU, I appreciated your post on Augustine's understanding of the Latin text and how that shaped his theology. However, as to the rest of your statements about penal substitution and your leanings toward Pelagianism, I will have to back away. The early Christians didn't teach the Trinity...

Justin, We all want to know God deeply and intimately. Just because some do not think Tabernacle experiences or whatever else are necessary to have that deep and intimate relationship with God does not mean they are antichrists. Again, you are taking that Scripture out of context as it is not...

Niki, Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your thoughts and hope this discussion has been something that has challenged you to search our the Word more deeply and has not been offensive in any way. Arnie, I agree with you and think you understand where I am coming from. I am speaking of...

Angelina, I dont deny a person has to seek or have faith. I just dont believe God injects them with truth. The truth is preserved in the inspired Word (whether preached or read in Scripture) and certainly the Spirit convicts and softens hearts. But he does not give correct interpretation. I...

Thaks for all of your resposnes and thougths thus far. Sorry, I have been traveling so havent had much time to look at this. Niki, No, missionaries are not Apostles. Paul was "unusally born" as an Apostle. This means direct revelation from Jesus himself. Missinoaries are...

Well put ScottAU

Yes. The Bible is revelation not personal whims and trusting gut feelings as being the voice of the Spirit.

Domenic, this is a simple case of you creating your own vocabulary and then condemning people for not abiding by your self-created definitions of "religion" and "Christianity." Share some substance if you want to be taken seriously.

Niki, Don't worry about upsetting me :). I enjoy these discussions and understand people have strong convictions. I have a good enough understanding of different positions to know that my thoughts arent the only thoughts and that I could very well be wrong on a number of issues (although I...

Thanks JB. Hey Niki, I appreciate your well thought-out replies. 1. I guess the point I would make is that this is pretty much a Calvinistic idea that revelation and inspiration alone are not sufficient for someone to know the truth. The idea that the Spirit must work either fully or...

JB, Thanks for the response. I would not say that only the intelligent can understand the Scriptures. I do believe that God helps us in understanding His Word. This does not mean he will supernaturally inject truth in us as the doctrine of illumination suggests. However, I believe God can...

Hey Nikki, Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your responses. Yes, there may be some crossed wires here. I am speaking about a specific doctrine that you can read more about here. I also agree that the truth was passed down once for all. The doctrine of illumination is not the same...

Justin, I strongly disagree. The Word of God is clearly proclaimed truth...not a puzzle to be unlocked by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit inspired the Scriptures so they could be clearly understood in their original intent. For further information, see my comments in the blog on the...