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Objectivity and subjectivity are the words I've used.

Every interpretation is subjective. In other words it is how one sees/ hears/ understands the words. Understand them well or those very words one hangs so much value on could be opposed to you! Luke 8:18 So beware how you listen, for whoever has, to him more shall be given; and whoever does not...

I certainly hope you understand the principle of objectivity and how it varies from subjectivity!

One can quote infinitum Eb, however if ones paradigm is faulty/ skewed, what is the good of it? It will be made to say things not intended. The devil's quoting of scripture to Jesus in the desert and how the Jews used it to condemn Jesus are examples of this. I have no interest in...

Sin and death will be destroyed. The NT is clear on that. Confusion arises when the words 'death and destruction' have appropriated to them meanings in line with Pagan theories.

Johann....you have missed the immediate context of my conversation with f2f. It is on the nature of our exchange that (in humour) a thread title change was suggested. :ummm:

The title of this thread is... What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation? Perhaps we could rename it, What is the basis for the believer's condemnation? Whatcha say?

Above is a good example of interpreting a question in the worst light. Maybe you are not aware that when you engage with me you use this principle to make charges, further bouncing your assumptions off your own negative constructs as grounds to blame.

Your imagination it seems knows no bounds when it comes to making unwarranted and untrue charges f2f. I wonder if that is the process you use to elevate yourself in your own understanding or is it just the default of the human nature?

is it really assumed that running off lots of scriptures makes a matter more true?

All who have aligned themselves and desire God's reality and those longing for Jesus' return.

Maybe I recognise when taking it further with you, my ole mate, is futile. I have noticed you misrepresent to suit your narrative. Engaging in this environment only promotes a shit fight.....and I don't care for shit fights.

long suffering = patiently waiting.....and he will wait till we nigh destroy ourselves as a planet/ people....then, the rescue mission which all God's people long for.

hmmmmm

John 16:13-15 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you...

That all men should come to a knowledge of his kindness ie, Salvation

The Spirit points to Jesus. That is the Spirit's witness in all he does. The Spirit does not highlight himself.....reject the promptings and where to?

The same principle applies to all. The energies of all who know God will be used to highlight the Saviour, to point people to and give encouragement.

Self centred immaturity clearly stands out.

When one consistently refuses the promptings of the Spirit, wouldn't you call that 'unbelief'?