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Adam disobeyed God and began deriving his nature from Satan. Cain, certainly was an example of someone turning away from God's words to him and deriving his character and nature from the Devil's character. 1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore...

What about you Haz? Clearly, you are not a thief on the cross. Is there any out working of grace in your life? Any reality of Christ manifested by spiritual fruit? I think we all get it (the thief probably lived only minutes after he believed), but do you think if he lived the outworking of the...

I agree with that Episkopos. We were not given half of a heart but a complete one. And it is a great disservice to Christians to imply they are Schizophrenic. Axehead I thought you laid that out very well, dragonfly. Not only may they still be in bondage to sin through ignorance (my people...

[/size] No argument there, Haz. It's like you are speaking Chinese and I am speaking Russian. Should we take a language class? :( Axe

I have never quite heard it put that way, Episkopos. It reminds me of the man in James, who looks into a mirror or glass and then when he walks away from it, he forgot what manner of man he was. I actually would like to post James 1:20 to 26. All of it seems relevant. Jas 1:20 For the wrath...

Richard, I said MAYBE, knowing full well that you are reading this thread (part of this conversation) and would gladly let us know. So, it was not a false claim. It was more of a question or thinking out loud, hoping you would answer. Thank you for answering my surmisings. Axehead

Maybe Richard subscribes to "Two House Theology", which states that Christians are the "Lost Tribes" of Israel. They believe that one day the "lost tribes" (i.e. the church) will be united with the house of Judah (i.e. the Jews) under the terms of the New Covenant. "Two-House" doctrine is...

John 8:28-32 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I DO nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. (As He hears His Father, He speaks and what His Father teaches Him, He DOES - He is a Doer of...

Even the Apostle John knew that "grace and truth came by Jesus Christ". The following did not come from Paul, but is in harmony with what the Holy Spirit speaks through Paul. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh,(the Word which was in the beginning with God and was God) and dwelt among us...

Hi Haz, Will you answer my questions on what did the scriptures mean here? Physical act or Spiritual metaphor? Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. Does this mean that Jesus was physically...

Some questions to ponder: 1. Was Jesus' obedience to His Father a product of love or legalism? What is our obedience to Jesus' commands a product of? 2. Was Jesus into WORKS? Or was His life an expression of trust in and obedience to His Father working by faith? What about you? 3. Did Jesus...

Has the church given up on personal righteousness? Does God require men to be righteous or is it something that is impossible so we just say “I am righteous because of Jesus Christ?” If Christ came to make men righteous, how does one experience righteousness as a work of the Spirit? 1. Is...

Haz, God's Word is understood through the Spirit, but we live in a physical world. "Jesus was hungered". Was he hungry physically or not? You are using 1 Cor 2:12-14 to then make everything that happened in the New Testament in a physical way, SPIRITUAL. Was Paul flogged physically and run out...

Amen. The QUALITY of our salvation must be Jesus Christ, Himself, dwelling in us by His Spirit leading us to put to death the deeds of the flesh so that we will be perfected in love and produce REAL fruit (of righteousness). It's not just us "reckoning" ourselves righteous but actually being...

I believe righteousness is the basic quality of God’s character and His character is to be formed in man. For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright. Psalm 11:7 The formation of His righteousness does not come instantaneously. For this reason Jesus...

Haz, I don't even think the "Scripture Man" (Dave) will agree with that. And I'm certainly I can easily understand now why you think "being conformed to the image of Christ and bearing spiritual fruit that is easy to observe with physical eyes" are just WORKS, now. "one should have his...

And no doubt you were able to bring your personal understanding in line with scripture because the Holy Spirit is much more powerful than Theologians. When I understood this it all came clear to me why so many decry "WORKS, WORKS", when they are being told that we must abide in Christ to bear...

The "Elephant in the room" with Protestants is that they deny the Subjective Experience of Christ. Protestants have adamantly denied that a Christian is “made” or “becomes” righteous – or changed in any way. Andreas Osiander (1498-1552) was an early ally of Martin Luther in the Protestant...

Spiritual truth is Spiritual truth and thus it is profitable for ALL. The spiritual principles contained in Truth are not just relegated to a certain people but relevant for ALL peoples. Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the...

False Sons and True Sons "Wherefore. . let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with. patience the race that is set before us, LOOKING UNTO JESUS, the author and finisher of our faith;... For consider Him that endured such contradiction of...