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I am glad you have brought that up because it seems that having fellowship with the Father seems to be a foreign experience for too many Christians. I ask myself if I had a natural father when I came home at night, would I sit in a different room to him? When a meal was served, would I sit at a...

The next in the line is the gift (charisma) of knowledge. This is an interesting one because the Greek word for knowledge is Gnosis from which we get the idea of Gnosticism. This set of beliefs known as Gnosticism is a modern name for a variety of ancient religious ideas and systems, originating...

I am not sure what that has got to do with the nine gifts of the Spirit.

I wasn't aware that we are a group. All we are is a bunch of individuals adding our comment to what has been said.

Rather nebulous comments like this makes me think that it is just a throwaway line used to fill some space.

No, it is not as you have said that to be the case.

Apostles are not replaced. They are people whom God anoints to fulfill the ministry of the apostle.

Who are these many people?

"I thought it is if there were Apostles today." Which of my questions or comments are you referring to? You are the only one that is saying being called by God means an apostle. And I am still waiting for your evidence concerning your comment about John.

"I never said that. He most assuredly was called by God." Yes, you did and we are not talking about whether he was called by God. "There is debate on whether he was an apostle or not, but that is pointless to me." No, it is not and I have no idea where you get this idea there is a debate...

So Paul was not an apostle? Rom_1:1 From Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus. God chose me to be an apostle, and he appointed me to preach the good news Rom_1:5 Jesus was kind to me and chose me to be an apostle, so that people of all nations would obey and have faith. Rom_11:13 I am now...

Yes so you keep saying but we do not accept your premise, as this is my thread, I suggest that you start your own and make your arguments.

You said...There are no apostles today. That role was unique to the beginning of the church. That is dealing with apostles today, not three in scripture. And this thread is to unravel the use of the nine gifts of the Spirit today, so you trying to convince us they do not exist is a waste of...

Now to get onto the nine gifts which are being given today. The first one is wisdom. This one is very interesting as it comes from the Greek word Sophia from which we get sophism which is explained as wisdom, higher or lower, worldly or spiritual. However, a sophist is one who gets to the core...

Evidence please. There is no use making statements if you don't have anything to back it up. When I came across the apostolic ministry in action, it had nothing at all to do with Pentecostalism. At the time I was in a Baptist Church. And read my post at 108.

In the pure sense of the scripture probably not. I spoke to two ministers fraternals in two different towns and presented a plan how they could work together evangelising the people. One said that it was their job to do things like that so go away and the other said they don't have time for...

In Christianity, cessationism is the doctrine that spiritual gifts such as speaking in tongues, prophecy and healing ceased with the apostolic age. This is generally opposed to continuationism, which teaches that the Holy Spirit may bestow the spiritual gifts on persons other than the original...

A good article generally speaking with one proviso. The Apostle does not have a relationship with the pastor. He has a relationship with the Elders. He told Timothy to go and appoint Elders, not pastors.

Ed Silvoso said that the best way to evangelize is to plant a church. I notice that this is what happens in third world countries, but in the west, we get the new converts to an existing church.

People are still writing down the words he speaks to them. Yes, what about the millions of Christian books out there? Just saying.