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I said, our neshamah (life, breath) was breathed into our bodies by God. And yes, He created mankind ....He formed us in the womb. That's a far far cry from saying we (our consciousness) was in with God before conception. In Genesis 2:7, it says that after God formed man from the dust of the...

Your assumptions, which are not scripturally proven, lead in a dangerous direction. If we were with God before birth, where is our beginning?

I came to Christ at age 13 in 1986. This was one of my favorites. I recorded it onto a cassette tape from the Gospel Greats show on Sunday morning and I'd listen to this exact recording on repeat in my bedroom ...weeping, and worshiping and communing with God ....❤❤❤ "I'll Not Turn Back" by the...

Amen, sister!! John 6:67-69 [67]Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? [68]Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. [69]And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

Think about that. Follow it out. Do you believe that God was created? Or... if our spirit was with God before conception, are we God like Jesus? (Jn chapter 1 says Jesus was with God as the Word, and the Word was God.) According to your assumptions, we would have been with God before the earth...

"What manner of spirit are ye of?" Jesus was calling into question, more, calling to their attention .....to take inventory of their intentions and where their inspiration was coming from. There are passages where Jesus flat told people .... "You are of your father, the devil." He was...

So Adam and Eve chose to come here and fall before they were born. And (supposedly) a spirit dwelling in pureness and perfection chose to be born and live a life as a child rapist, a satanist, a murderer ...or to be at the other end of that ...the victim of such things. Okay .....lol .....this...

You're making assumptions that are not in scripture and those assumptions create even more questions, which leads to more and more assumptions ...and false doctrines, and false religions. Where in scripture do you see a human (man or woman) say "before Abraham was, I Am" ...or "before the...

Praying, @Debp :praying: ❤️

"Sweet Surrender" by the Nesbitts

Don't believe every testimony. You have to compare it with scripture to see if it lines up.

Hilarious! :tearsofjoy:

Hilarious! :tearsofjoy:

A person has a right to be angry about injustices and lies, and twistings of scripture used to justify evil actions perpetrated against oneself and others. I'm not going to apologize for that. Anger is not the same as hatred.

Very odd, considering those verses have absolutely nothing to do with any so-called pre-existence of man. Romans 9:11-14 [11](For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that...

Of course, Jesus is God. But that isn't what this thread is about. There are several other threads discussing the divinity of Jesus.

This thread has gone way off the line. From the perspective of a Christian, in a Christian forum, the word "cult" is very specific. It is referring to groups who place a man or an entity such as satan/lucifer as their "god." Jesus clearly is not a cult leader. Can we get back to the OP, please...

My Mormon aunt told me this as a child ...that I was with God before I was born, and that I chose my parents and my name .....a bunch of HOGWASH!!! Who would want to be born into a multigenerational bloodline cult family and be subjected to SRA and MK Ultra??? (My mormon aunt and uncle were some...