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    Another example of the KJV Bible contradicting itself

    Patrick it very plainly says "ALL IN CHRIST" shall be made alive! Just as it says "ALL in Adam die" so too ALL in Christ shall be made alive. In life we shall either die in Adam without Christ, OR we shall die in Christ to have eternal spiritual life through Him. 1 Timothy 4:10 (KJV) For...
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    How does that explain a thousand years being literal or symbolic?
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    Symbolizing TIME given the Church on earth to proclaim the Gospel unto all the nations of the earth so the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven could be completed.
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    That verse doesn't say Christ's Kingdom will not come until the seventh trumpet sounds. It says the kingdoms of this world become of our Lord. Christ proves by His miracles that His Kingdom has come and is within you when He came to earth a man. Luke 11:20 (KJV) But if I with the finger of...
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    They won't be made physically alive again until an hour coming when the seventh trumpet sounds. The martyred saints did not have to come to physical life AGAIN to reign with Christ for a thousand years. Because they LIVED (past tense) and REIGNED (past tense) with Christ for a thousand years...
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    Who is the overcomer? First and foremost it's Christ! How are the faithful saints also overcomers through Christ? 1 John 2:13-14 (KJV) I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I...
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    The context presents a thousand years is both past and future? How do you explain that?
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    Doesn't it make sense to understand Christians through Christ's Spirit in us rule and reign in life by His Word? IOW we obediently obey the mandate from Christ to preach the Gospel unto all the nations of the world. And through the Gospel the nations are judged, because the Gospel is the power...
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    How do you reconcile reigning with Christ a thousand years in the future with those of vs 4 who have already lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years? If this isn't speaking of the same thousand years, how many separate thousand-year periods of time will there be?
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    Scripture tells us there will not be a bodily resurrection before an hour coming when the last/seventh trumpet sounds. Because none will be made perfect until all are perfected together. Hebrews 11:39-40 (KJV) And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the...
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    How do you envision Christians ruling over the nations? Isn't Christ the One ordained to rule over the nations now, since His ascension to heaven through His Church on earth? Re 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as...
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    Rev 20:4 speaks of a thousand years when the martyred saints "lived and reigned" with Christ. IOW in life, before they were martyred for their faith they lived and reigned with Christ. Then Rev 20:6 speaks of those who shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand...
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    Another example of the KJV Bible contradicting itself

    Yes, sadly, I know! I don't really expect to change his mind, although I can hope! I reply to some in these forums hoping to show how easily error can creep in if we aren't on guard. Thanks
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    What is "OSAS"?

    Exactly! It's not that when we are saved we shall never sin again! When we are born again we are no longer in bondage to sin, Christians can choose to turn away from sin. The power sin has in man has been broken once we have been saved by Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit in us...
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    Another example of the KJV Bible contradicting itself

    Because when one is IN Christ they are eternally alive. You quote the verse, but completely miss what Paul is saying! Just as being IN Adam, which is to have physical life, so to being IN Christ is to have eternal spiritual life IN Him. In the same way since ALL of humanity is physically IN...
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    the return of Jesus Christ .... I see two phases

    Telling the truth is NOT attacking! Nor is it a weak defense! JW's wouldn't be offended if they had truth.
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    Another example of the KJV Bible contradicting itself

    If the lake of fire is restorative, why is it called the second death? Christ tells us that death in the fire destroys not only our body but also our soul, what is left of man cast there to restore? Revelation 20:14-15 (KJV) And death and hell (grave) were cast into the lake of fire. This...
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    the return of Jesus Christ .... I see two phases

    JW's are always suggesting they alone have the right translation, therefore claiming "mistranslation" in faithful translations of Holy Writ. There is NOT mistranslation! Rather there is misunderstanding. As I've already said the sign of His coming or His presence as you prefer was fulfilled at...
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    Will be the planet Earth destroyed by Jesus?

    When will the tabernacle of God be with man? Will it be on this earth, that is destined to fiery destruction, or on the new earth after this first earth has passed away? Revelation 21:1-2 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    That's funny! Because I believe you profess Christ and promote Zionism. It is you who is too wrapped up in saving ALL ethnic Israel to rightly divide the Scriptures. That's why you cannot let go of ALL Israel saved being ethnic even though Paul clearly says they shall not be saved without the...