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Shalom, veteran. Sorry, but that is assuming too much. These are two different shofars - two different "air-raid sirens!" They are two different disasters! Let's look at the FULL text of chapter 9: Revelation 8:13; 9:1-21 13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven...

Shalom, everyone. This is (IMO) a starting point to the understanding of prophecy. What one believes about this word (and terms related to this word) is fundamental to how one will perceive many of the prophecies, both in the Tanakh (the OT) and in the B'rit Chadashah (the NT). Please don't...

Shalom, jeffweeder. These are rather unfortunate translations of 1 Timothy 4:1 and Matthew 24:10. To say "fall away" is rather like someone saying they "fell in love" with someone, or rather "fell out of love" with someone, or "fell into sin." To say "fell in" or "fell out" or "fell into" is...

Shalom, terry. Thank you for responding! That's great! LOL! It's one thing to have a larger-than-normal mess, but to sling it around, too! It's almost as entertaining as the rest of this ... <ahem> ... "SERIOUS" conversation! LOL!

Shalom, Trekson. Hmmm.... That's very interesting. For me, it comes up just about covering the whole screen when the forum window is in "full screen" mode. The file is just a little bigger than 453k. I'll have to work on adjusting things a little. What's your screen resolution, if you don't...

Shabbat shalom, terry. LOL! I was reading through this topic, trying to get caught up, when I happened upon this little gem: "TWC ... trying to validate your claims by saying it is nausating? Believe me or this will make me sick? I agree with Oliver tis but... elephant hurling." "ELEPHANT...

Shalom, Trekson. Were you able to see the picture I uploaded? Could you blow it up and see what was written below? I'd just like to get a little feedback to hear that what I tried worked. (I do so little of it, that I can't remember the last time I uploaded a picture. I can't even remember if...

Shalom, Trekson. Yes, there are quite a few comparisons being made - a few similes; on the other hand, I can still see the creatures being literal locusts. Did you know, for instance, that the "breastplate" is the Greek word "thorax?" Coincidence? I don't think so. I usually only deal with...

Shalom, Trekson. The way that you have described these helicopters or jet engines is one of many possibilities WHEN one accedes to figurative representations in the description that Yochanan gave in the Revelation. However, they already had several different types of vehicles for hundreds of...

Shalom, terry. LOL! With all due respect to veteran, allow me to present a quite opposite point of view: Revelation 9:1-12 "Then the fifth messenger blasted (on his shofar) and I saw a heavenly body fall out of the sky down to the earth (meteorite): and to it was given the exact coordinates...

Shalom, kepha31. Well, veteran and I have our differences, but in the fundamental points I think there is some agreement. However, the "prince of princes" in Dani'el 8:25, in my opinion, is Yeshua` in the future. The vision Dani'el was given in chapter 8 and explained by Gavri'el was that of...

Shabbat shalom, veteran. No, that only "defies common WESTERN sense." One must think like an Isra'eli to get this right. We like for everything to be reported in a nice, neat, little package of historically sequential events, but the Jewish thought pattern is to express more general points...

Shalom, veteran. You need to pay attention to what I wrote, brother. I said, "Sure, they were given for all to read so that we can learn from the triumphs and mistakes of others, but they were NOT written specifically or directly to US!" Of course this is about the future. I never said it...

Shalom, JosyWales. I AM going to let this go. I've done all the reasoning I can with you about the numbers you have chosen to use in your calculations. I have given you reason enough to abandon the calculations to which you cling, but now the choice (and its ramifications) are in your court...

Shalom, veteran. Only in a very GENERAL way could one's "church" today be compared to one of these seven. Each of these called-out assemblies were given VERY specific praises, promises, warnings and instructions that do NOT carry over to today's "churches." Furthermore, there are some...

Shalom, Arnie. And, that would be the New Jerusalem where Yeshua` is making a place for each of us, or as the author of Hebrews called it, "mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem" (KJV). In Greek, that was "Sioon orei kai polei Theou zoontos Ierousaleem...

Shalom, Trekson. Yeah, but I have those same four things in common with you and veteran, and it STILL feels like there's no true foundation on which to build. I just feel that we need to find more to agree upon before delving into what we have for disagreement. There are just too many things...

Shalom, "Son of Man." Acts 1:1-12 1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach, 2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: 3 To whom also he shewed...

Shalom, gentlemen. Now, add to that that the definitions for these words: To the messenger of the called-out group in Ephesus To the messenger of the called-out group in Smyrna To the messenger of the called-out group in Pergamum To the messenger of the called-out group in Thyatira To the...

Shalom, folks. Listen, guys, you are starting and arguing without commonality. First, define your terms. THEN, proceed to discussion of the various parts of Scripture that truly have to do with the subject matter. For instance, lately, you've been discussing the role that the "woman" plays in...