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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    Other thing the Rev 20 saints are not described as coming to life again, implying a physical resurrection of them as they are spiritually alive when they believe. And heaven is a dwelling place of people who are spiritually alive having had their spirits perfected. Saints live forever, they are...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The other thing about the abomination that makes desolate and the 70 AD temple. That temple God had already rejected, and there was no more accepted by God, animal sacrifices for sin, it was not the Holy of Holies where God was. The church was going strong and God lives in them not a building...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It's interesting that the temple was no longer the holy place where God dwells even in 70 AD. if you read Josephus on the temple after the resurrection there were signs that used to take place that no longer did, pointing out things had changed...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    How bizarre to just come out like that. Do you do that with everyone ?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Well, when you see the abomination of desolation, get as far away as you can go. And that is also proof there is no pre-trib rapture. That phrase is not in Luke 17 or Luke 21
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I believe Matthew 24 has both a past fulfillment and a future fulfillment, not yet happened. I am not a preterist. Preterists believe everything has already happened, including Revelation. In an extreme sense, it has, as the future is as certain to God as the past as to what will happen, as to...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Another truth the 1000 year millenial reign on earth is wrong is the judgment does not occur after. The judgement occurs when Christ returns, not 1000 years afterwards. Course may be too simplistic for you as you may want to add on all sorts of complexities and persuasions and object strongly...
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    Hebrews 6 is not about losing salvation, but if you do not believe the foundation of eternal life as stated in v 26 - 30, you will believe lies. John 10 14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life...
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    As the discussion is not changing your cultic mind to be conformed to scripture, any further discussion is just a waste of time. And I wont bother responding.
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    Hebrews 6 is not about losing salvation, example here https://bffbible.org/new-testament/view/hebrews6_4-9-can-i-lose-my-salvation
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    Tasted but not eaten it! It has not changed you on the inside! They experienced some blessing from God, that is all.
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    You don't realize that saying the things you do completely invalidates scriptures and any actual meaning they have, just becomes a mishmash of whatever you want it to say. This is actually comical and a really bad thing to do.
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    So now you say a 1000 years is just a day. No, it is an exact 1000 years of time as taught by millenialists, not a day, 1000 days, or anything in-between. You are not aware of their doctrine then. And you're making up stuff again! Yanking scripture out to prove some false point you are...
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    They experienced God in a church, or among other believers. The Holy Spirit is in and surrounding multiple believers. You say they 'received Him, the Holy Spirit' But it does not say that anywhere in what you quote. I believe in eternal salvation for believers if they are His 'sheep'. and...
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    Christ tells us of this judgement on the last day in a teaching, on the Last Day when He comes in His glory and all the angels with Him gather the peoples of the nations to experience His judgement of them. Matthew 25 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels...
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    When is the resurrection in scripture? Only one resurrection and it is on the Last Day As is also the judgement on the Last Day No judgement for the wicked after a 1000 year millennial reign You guys argue with Christ and Paul John 6:39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of...
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    John 5 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute...
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    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    Why are you so flat minded about this? It does not support what you are saying. And it also does not conform to all the other teachings about our resurrection. Does not fit what you are saying. If you believe it as you say, you are in conflict with other scriptures. Never make a doctrine based...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Even the angels who came for Lot, told him to flee to the mountains. So, I don't think we want to fully spiritualize it, even though you can. That part of Matthew 24 is for those in Judea. Judea is still there today, so IMO, it can be applied to then and now. Gen 19 15 When the morning dawned...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    John 5 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute...