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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, Buzzfruit. I really agree with you, except perhaps with the definition of "heaven": The word used in Rev. 21:2 for "heaven" is "ouranos," (NT: 3772) which means "the sky" or the "atmosphere." This is how I know that the city will land; it comes OUT of the sky; it comes OUT of the...
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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, veteran. I have never said or indicated such a thing! I would thank you not to put words in my mouth (so to speak)! God is a Spirit - a WIND! The Hebrew word is "ruach," which can also mean "as invisible AS the wind," which is very similar to the Greek word "pneuma." This is the same...
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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, veteran. How to begin ... hmmm .... It seems that you have a faulty understanding of the basic Greek words of this passage. Let's look at the Greek of this passage directly and go back to verse 35 to start: 35 Alla erei tis, "poos egeirontai hoi nekroi? Poioo de soomati erchontai?" 36...
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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, aspen. While it is true that the Bible is not a science book, it is also true that, when the Bible speaks on scientific matters, it speaks accurately. Would you really think that God doesn't know about His own Creation?! Furthermore, God is not a liar; therefore, what He has said about...
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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, aspen. You should say, "It cannot be reconciled with what we THINK we know about the world." When one considers all the "facts" upon which we have built our scientific world-views, one should always admit that we don't know as much as we THINK we know about anything! It's hard to tell...
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    No one knows the day or the hour?

    Shalom, veteran. You're not listening (or reading) clearly: I was saying that the "wicked and adulterous generation" with whom Yeshua` had to contend in the first century is STILL the same "generation" that is with us today! They are not willing to see Yeshua` as the Messiah God promised, yet...
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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, aspen. Quieter, perhaps, but not nearly as thorough.
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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, veteran. Well, if you want to get nasty about it, there isn't such a thing as a "Heavenly dimension!" That's a fabrication from theological imagination that should NEVER have been introduced into the thought process of a believer! All it does is REALLY mess people up! "Heaven" simply...
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    No one knows the day or the hour?

    Shalom, veteran. And around and around we go. You, too, are back to the "Jesus meant what He said" argument; Did you read what I said above? If so, it is obvious to me that more arguments from me saying the same thing would just be "whipping a dead horse." Yes, He WAS speaking of the specific...
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    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    Shalom, veteran. This is what I mean by an "obscure passage." If you want to believe that it is about "non-physical messengers from God," go ahead. I still believe that it is talking about ANY "messengers from God," human or otherwise, and I further believe that it is more likely to entertain...
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    No one knows the day or the hour?

    Shalom, Dan. Well, that was a pretty terse answer to just one of my points. Look, EVERY man - EVERY human being - "interprets" what He reads. People don't think in a particular language. That's why there are so many languages and dialects around the globe. People think in pictures and memories...
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    No one knows the day or the hour?

    Shalom, Dan. You are making a mistake when it comes to an interpretation of Matthew 16:28, Mark 9:1, and Luke 9:27: These statements are made within their respective contexts: Matthew 16:27-17:13 27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall...
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    How Many Resurrections Are There? (Rapture Topic)

    Shalom, veteran. You are making many assumptions: First, you are assuming in your interpretation of John 5:28-29 and Dan. 12:2 that all have to be resurrected AT THE SAME TIME! That's not necessarily so. Just because all will be resurrected does NOT mean that all have to be resurrected at the...
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    What sign is the Occupy Wall Street movement for us?

    Shalom, veteran. They are the sign of economic unrest in the USA. There may not be a seal or a trumpet associated with the events, but they ARE a sign that the people are dissatisfied with the state of the US economy (and that of the world). The problem, though, is blaming their problems on the...
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    New Views on the Rapture

    Shalom, Popeye. Here's why I believe that there will be a division of the one river into twelve: Rev 22:1-2 1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the...
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    RAPTURE QUESTION + answer

    Shalom BibleScribe. Actually, the book of Psalms is the 27th book of the Bible, although it might be considered to be the 25th book or the 14th book, depending on whether one sees the "Minor Prophets" as one book, the two books of Sh'mu'el as one book, and the two books of the Kings as one...
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    New Views on the Rapture

    Shalom, BibleScribe. I'm going to have FUN answering all the posts, but this is a quick one. Where do you get a "Millennial Kingdom?" One must be VERY careful with theological/eschatological labels. Go back to Luke 1:30-33: Luke 1:30-33 30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for...
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    RAPTURE QUESTION + answer

    Shalom, BiggAndyy. I totally agree with you. I think you missed a few, like Hal Lindsey, but you got many of them! Thanks!
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    RAPTURE QUESTION + answer

    Shalom, BibleScribe. I rode on a hook and latter, once. It was fun! WHEEEEE!!!
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    RAPTURE QUESTION + answer

    Shalom, one_christian_warrior. Sorry, but I believe you are WAY off on all this. First, we can't KNOW that we are the "FINAL GENERATION" any more than we can know when the Messiah Yeshua` will return! Second, the "tribulation" is NOT the same as the 70th Seven ("Week") of Dani'el 9:24-27. To...