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It's good that you do not fear, I only disagree with how you arrive there. I need real firm foundations--the idea that people cannot be lost after they're saved isn't, for me, a firm foundation, since I do not read anything of the sort in Scripture (and I, in fact, read the very opposite); I am...

@marks God loves us, and gave His Son to be tormented/punished in place of the torment that would otherwise be ours on account of our sins. We should remember that and "do not permit your hearts to be troubled" by the fear of punishment/torment.

The issue of "fear" is important: "fear" characterizes the "slavery" (Ro 8:15) of those "under Law" (the Law produces slaves Gal 4:23,24), and this arrangement is called "the flesh" (Ro 8:3; Gal 3:3), so, if we're threatening to steal the glory (in that we are relying on the flesh under such...

Through talking with other Christians, I have received the grace of prayer, and, through that, have received many answers I could not find without praying. I think discussion is integral, but not because others have answers, it's just the grace they have that opens my eyes.

1. Sealed--that's why it says not to grieve the Holy Spirit, so He doesn't leave. 2a. It's Paul who said "obey for it is God at work in you"--obey the working of God. When Christians sin, they're not obeying that working. 2b. No, "obedience" is not "obey the Gospel message", it has to do with...

Already showed you 1 Co 9:27-1 Co 10, and you had no answer.

You said some things concerning the phrase, I responded.

No one here is the thief on the cross--they have much longer races of faith to run than he did.

"in Christ" : verses like 1 Jn 2:28 prohibit me from taking a view that this union is static. You may want to cite Ro 8, but, no, the things that can't separate us don't include our own sin: he asks "who will condemn?" but the believer CAN be "condemned" for sinning (Ro 14:23)! This is bc the...

Nope, you can have the spirit but not listen--"obey, for it is God at work in you".

I think that the recognition of peace on account of being right with God because of the righteousness of faith has to be anchored in something more than just the valid argumentation, and that something is love. It makes sense He wants me to have peace, not fear or be tormented (1 Jn 4), when I...

God's Righteousness by Grace Through Faith Romans 1:16 "God's righteousness is revealed from faith to faith", Ro 4:12 the "footsteps of the faith of Abraham", Ro 6:14 "Sin will not make you its slave, because you are not under Law but under Grace", Ro 8:1 "There is no condemnation for those who...

Yes, we are saved, and Paul says that that salvation is like the Jews' salvation from Egypt--yet they sinned and fell under God's wrath and forfeited the promise. 1 Co 9:27 - 1 Co 10 27But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be...

1. No, Paul gives the glory to God "I was abundant in labors above them all, yet not I but the grace with me". 2. Romans 7: a. Describes the life of a Jew "under Law", who is thus "mastered by sin" (Ro 6:14), so it's not a Christian, b. Describes the life of a Jew "in the flesh" (Ro 7:5), but...

Paul cited the OT to teach us about Christianity--he specifically stated "these things were written for us". Not difficult to understand it applies to us.

You accused me of wrongly using the Old Testament, but all I was doing was quoting Paul correctly using the Old Testament, so you have no valid objection to my point.

You're free to respond to the response I already provided to this whenever you please.

Still not an answer for 1 Co 9:27-1 Co 10, or, really, any of the other many verses I cited.

I'm just believing Scripture, sir; if you have an answer to the Scriptures I've supplied, I'm waiting. Thanks.

Actually, that was Paul stating that salvation and the promise of eternal life can be forfeited through sin, not me, so your argument is with him, not me