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1. Already happened- see Jesus in KJV-Daniel 9:27 and Mark 13:14. 2. Will happen- but no secret rapture. See item #3 below. 3. Will happen- suddenly,a simultaneous event of both redemption and total destruction. See Luke 17:29

Old Babylon itself is not a mystery, therefore the mystery is, that one would never think that God would associate Israel as being fallen and judged by God at the same level of destruction, that He brought to Babylon. But He did, specifically in 70AD. It's not that literal old Babylon is fallen...

Amen, Brother A Amen brother APAK!! Thanks for your testimony. Though you have no doubtedly condensed it, as with me, curtailing the little details of it all, is just as important. As for the two visions of Revelation 9, in my previous post, my attempt was to help you to look into HOW it is...

APAK said: No more physical Temples, for the presence of God, and no more physical Jerusalem as the city of God. ENOCH 111 replied: Not so. See the book of Ezekiel as well as many other prophetic books. Let's take Jerusalem as an example. Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed...

Praise be to God! I relate to all you have said! I am eager to tell you briefly that in 1975, through a dream/vision of the book of 1 Timothy, I became a born again Christian shortly after. I had no previous christian training or knowledge of God or the Bible. I too fell into the pre-millennial...

Thank you for your sincere response. I perceive that you have a keen eye for observing that which may or not be a manifestation of the Lord's prophecies in Revelation. It's not so much that we can see events that have come to pass, or project into the future of how events might come to pass...

Hi APAK, I have thoroughly read your post, and I do understand your historical focus. I also tend to lean towards the historical view, but not as severe as you. You have done a superb job in outlining the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70AD, but as to anything past that is...

Amen! It's important that Christians do not fall victim to becoming a solidified state, like the "religions" they attend or become members of. To remain open minded defeats the will to be pharasaical, and as a result one is fluid, remaining pliable, ready and willing for the Lord to change...

"The book of Daniel was for Israel, as the book of Revelation is for Christ's born again church."- Earburner

^ John.2[21] But he spake of the temple of his body- [specifically in 3 days].

For you it is given! Matt.13[11] He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

I gave the principals of HOW one can know that the 70th week is not missing. Only the Lord understands His own "thoughts and ways" better than we do, or any biblical scholar! When you can abide in His instruction of Proverbs 3:5, He will deliver His promise in John 16:13

There are only THREE understandings about the "sanctuary" (temple) that was in Jerusalem: 1. It was re-built, but then destroyed 70AD 2. It is being built right NOW. 3. It will never be re-built again. Which temple am I talking about, and in which Jerusalem?

Davy, here is your clue, and it's all you need to understand that the 70th week IS NOT MISSING. Daniel 9[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two...

Hi Davy, you are closer to the truth of how the majority of "church-ianity" promotes their view, which of course always includes the Jewish concept of Christ conducting a Millennial Reign of the saved OVER the unsaved, MoB people, who CAN'T be saved EVER, for two reasons. 1. They ALL had the...

It's a vision WITH God's words given to Daniel. God chose to say that he "determined" the 70 weeks of time His way. Daniel's choice of words were not allowed. I for one also, do not intend to change the literal heard/seen words of God. I am sure Daniel didn't either. But for interpretation, it's...

^ John 4[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Since only Jesus is The Truth, we should let/allow Him to guide us, and NOT "church-ianity". John 16[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall...

I am not here to doubt your methodology of study or your faith, but rather to understand your meaning for the futurist view that you are presenting. I on the other hand, hold to the historicist view, which is my counting backwards to the past, from the Crucifixion of Jesus. I mentioned the...

Of all examples to choose, you hit the nail on the head of what we are talking about! But for your sake at the moment, I don't think that you really want to open that can of worms, of the 2300 and the 1290/1335 days, because if you did, then we would have to talk about 1. Antiochus Epiphanes and...

"3rd time" ?? Yes, on your 3rd time, you finally did say what you mean. Thank you. For a minute there, I thought that I might have to get bigger pliers to "pull teeth". Ok, moving forward....you are saying that when the Muslim armies surround Jerusalem, the building of the street, the wall...